I thought F&P testified before Congress that it was Jones' work which caused the University to press F&P to go to press with their findings early.
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:11 AM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Jones- > > > > The Gupta and Jacobs patent was not missed by R. Mills. Look at the > references cited at the end of the 1991 patent document. Randy was quick > to pick up on the technology shortly after the patent lapsed in 1999. It > may be that Gupta and Jacobs were bought out by somebody or the technology > was declared dark at the time the patent lapsed. That would be consistent > with actions to poo-poo the Pd D ideas by the military- industrial complex. > > > > > Note the related GE and M-D patents (reference by the Gupta-Jacobs patent) > granted in the early 1960’s. > > > > Interestingly, I remember a flare of activity reported by a physics friend > in the 1964-65 timeframe concerning a newly found heavy water—not deuterium > oxide—with unusual properties. However, the flickering flame of activity > was extinguished in less than a week as I recall. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> > *Sent: *Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:45 AM > *To: *Vortex List <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:The Gupta Patent of early 1989 > > > > One reason for the post below concerns the apparent evolution of Gupta's > research, in which a superior lithium ion battery is the result. > > http://electrovaya.com/ > > The company is Ectrovaya - which is Canadian... and their battery > recently won a competition with other advanced batteries... yup, they > are apparently superior to the new battery offering of Tesla. > > Not sure if there is a contribution from LENR or not. But batteries > could be the backdoor for commercialization ... All those lithium > battery meltdowns were indeed- a message. > > > > > Here is a strange bit of history which seems to have been somehow > > overlooked and misplaced. It almost reads like "alternate facts".... > > > > The Fleischmann/ Pons announcement of cold fusion happened on March > > 23, 1989. Ostensibly this date was forced on them by concerns about > > the competing work from Steven Jones at BYU, but there was another > > more specific threat. Perhaps their rush was not BYU but concern over > > a competing line of research which Fleischmann had participated in, > > going all the way back to the 1970s. These were palladium metal > > lattice experiments described by B. Dandapani (and Fleischmann as > > coauthor) in the Journal of Electronal. Chemistry, 39, in 1972 and later. > > > > On March 31, 1989 - 8 days after the hurried Utah announcement the > > following patent was actually filed by Gupta and Jacobs in the USA, > > and it was soon GRANTED ! And then it was almost completely ignored > > today, even though it undercuts the IP claims of others and actually > > mentions "dense hydrogen" as the operative mechanism. Yet, the IP was > > not commercially useful, probably due to the high cost of palladium. > > It is now in the public domain. > > > > "Process and apparatus for generating high density hydrogen in a > > matrix" US 4986887 > > > > https://www.google.com/patents/US4986887 > > > > That's right - the first LENR filing was actually granted by the > > Patent Office - so there is no wonder why later filings did not succeed. > > > > There was and still is - a lot of whining going on - but no evidence > > of a "grand conspiracy" by insiders in Hot Fusion, although they did > > not agree there was a breakthrough. Plus, there is no way Gupta could > > have based his IP on "stealing the P&F work" since it normally takes > > months to draft a decent patent filing and several days to get it to > > USPTO by mail, and Gupta had published on the subject before 1989. > > > > We now understand why almost everyone else's patent application was > > denied or languished, and it has nothing to do with violating the Laws > > of Physics or Thermodynamics, nor to a hostile hot fusion establishment. > > > > There was, in fact, a valid patent granted for LENR. > > > > > > >