Jones –

Interesting item and related comments.

Additional comments:


  1.  The wave length of E-M radiation in the solid state is not the same as in 
a vacuum.
  2.  The CalPhysics item does not address the energy and angular momentum 
associated with nuclear entities, atomic entities and photons, nor how the 
uncertainty principle of Planck applies to the transition of spin angular 
momentum in integral units of h/2pie in any system.  Their discussion carefully 
avoids spin energy and related angular momentum.   There may be no quantum 
fuzziness associated with spin. angular momentum and related energy.

Addressing these questions may provide understanding why LENR does not entail 
radiation associated with high energy particles and annihilation reactions.

Bob Cook



From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:11 AM
To: Vortex List<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ZPE as the superset of Dark Energy


A practical detail... assuming that the 1.7 THz phase transition is the peak 
energy of ZPE photons which can interact in a mechanical conversion system in 
order to harness dark energy (which is one possible interpretation of the 
CalPhysics info)...

1.7 terahertz = 176.3 wavelength in micrometers

The practical question becomes - is there a way to utilize this dimension as in 
an LENR experiment, so that part of the gain (or all of the gain) can derive 
from dark energy? This is obviously a geometry which much larger than 
nanometer, for instance. But these days, everyone wants to focus on nanometer. 
That could be a mistake.

Obviously, a photon in the Casimir geometry (2-20 nm) corresponds to EUV 
wavelengths ... and this size discrepancy may explain why the Jovion patent 
discussed in the reference below does not work. There is no coupling.

That patent is premised on  what they are calling the "Casimir-Lamb Shift" 
which indicates that certain electron orbitals in atoms are lower in energy 
inside a Casimir cavity than outside.

Perhaps the widespread emphasis on "nano" has been misplaced and we should be 
thinking about how to implement reactants in a comparatively huge geometry, 
which is slightly below the one millimeter scale.

However, it could also be the case that one needs both scales in the same 
experiment. That would be new territory to explore.



>From the CalPhysics site... (paraphrased and annotated to make a point)

A major discovery in astrophysics in the late 1990s was the finding from 
supernovae redshift-luminosity observations that the expansion of the universe 
is accelerating. This led to the concept of dark energy, which has been labeled 
as a resurrection of Einstein's cosmological constant. The universe now appears 
to consist of about 70 percent dark energy, 25 percent dark matter and five 
percent ordinary matter.

Zero-point energy can be defined as having the apparent desired property of 
driving an accelerated expansion, and thus having the requisite properties of 
dark energy, but to an absurdly greater degree than is required.... but recent 
work by Christian Beck and Michael Mackey may have resolved the disparity. If 
their work is accurate, then dark energy is basically nothing other than ZPE or 
a superset/subset.

They propose that a phase transition occurs such that zero-point photons below 
a frequency of about 1.7 THz are gravitationally active whereas above that they 
are not. If true, the dark energy problem is solved: dark energy is the low 
frequency gravitationally active component of zero-point energy.

The 1.7 THz phase transition value is an important marker and consistent with 
measurable QED effects such as the Casimir effect, the Lamb shift, etc. The 
proposed phase transition value should be testable in the near future. It is in 
range which comes up in the studies of SPP (surface plasmons). NASA has done 
recent R&D work using terahertz radiation in a slightly higher THz range on a 
nickel lattice loaded with hydrogen, in order to induce LENR.

Perhaps NASA should have aimed lower and/or perhaps Holmlid will find access to 
the new THz lasers which are coming out in this exact range (which seems to be 
favored in terms of efficiency).

From: http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html with comments added


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