Conduction band moving particles that are not electrons were very clearly 
described in the work of Talbot and Scott Chubb. They focused their 
considerable genius on proton conduction which includes deuteron conduction. 
RIP Scott and Talbot, they were good companions in the study of cold fusion for 
so many years. 

 

From: JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 2:17 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Fast company in Fresno

 

 

 

According to the ORNL paper, which may not be related to this - the propagation 
wave does not consist of conduction band electrons but “phasons” which is a 
much heavier particulate, like a phonon but also much faster. Wouldn’t it be 
interesting if potassium ferrite was such ceramic?

 

That exotica may not apply to LENR however, but if it does, there is the 
possibility of finding better results with  lattice alloy combinations (or more 
likely ceramics) which work more like the phasons in fresnoite.

 

 

 

From: Bob Higgins <mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> 

 

 

The interesting part of the phenomenon is not the speed of propagation per se, 
but what happens at the metal surface during this propagation.  I believe there 
is a conduction band electron sweep as this type of thermal "wave" passes 
through the metal grains with perhaps unusual behavior when these electrons are 
swept up to a metal grain boundary.  Also, it appears to be more of a wave - 
and in that sense it can setup up reflections and standing wave behavior.  Look 
at Krivit's photo of Piantelli's runaway reaction on his Ni rod.  It appears to 
have a standing wave effect for the maximum LENR action in the center of the 
rod.  This seems characteristic of a standing wave pattern.  It is possible 
that the LENR activity, being stimulated by the passage of a thermal wave, can 
turn the rod into an active medium so that a passing thermal waves can have 
gain and oscillation - almost like a laser cavity.

 


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