Well Bob,  NASA is huge and as such they make a few mistakes here and there. We 
can still marvel at the things they did 40-50 years ago which they would have a 
hard time repeating today. But anyway sticking to LENR -  here is some 
clarification on why they think neutron activation is not a problem - from a 
SciAm guest-blog piece written by Steve Krivit a few years ago

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/its-not-cold-fusion-but-its-something/

Basically their rationale is that their imaginary neutrons  have a very large 
DeBroglie wavelength and therefore have a huge capture cross-section.

Problem is – this is pure BS since  there is a large body of experimental work 
from top labs on ultra-cold neutrons which do not demonstrate this claim and 
which they choose to ignore. What other miracle keeps captured neutrons from 
activating electrodes? Their answer: Shut up !!!

Still, we must realize that NASA has sponsored LENR R&D - probably quite a bit 
of it - some of which was successful and it is reasonable to assume  that they 
have information not available to the public. 

Experiment rules!


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com

I have very little positive feelings about NASA’s ethics and their 
scientific/engineering capability




From: JonesBeene 
 
I must have signed up to get notices from USPTO since neither the inventor nor 
the application is familiar.

Anyway – today this effort to Patent a particular concept  for a LENR reactor 
was abandoned by Dan Steinberg, whoever that is - and the claimed operational 
mechanism appears to be strongly influenced by the low momentum neutron 
conjecture of Widom and Larsen. Perhaps there is some connection. 

No wonder that it was abandoned. These neutrons have yet to be documented yet 
the hypothesis lingers on.

“Apparatus and Method for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions”
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130044847A1/en

Abstract
Provided are a method and apparatus for low energy nuclear reactions in 
hydrogen-loaded metals. A nickel cathode is disposed inside a pressure vessel 
loaded with heavy water. The vessel is heated to a temperature at which nickel 
oxide is reduced in the presence of hydrogen. The cathode is electrified, 
thereby producing hydrogen at the cathode, which removes any oxide layer on the 
nickel. The nickel can therefore more easily be loaded with hydrogen. The 
nickel cathode preferably has embedded particles of neutron-absorbing and/or 
hydrogen absorbing materials, such as boron-10…

Boron-10 appears to be the key to this particular claim – and the reason is 
clear. 

This isotope has a cross-section for low energy neutrons of at least  3840 
barns – “bigger than a barn” so to speak and if you believe W&L got it right – 
then this would have been your winning lotto ticket.

Never mind that the claim was never “reduced to practice”… as they say in 
Crystal City.

Unless that is – you are old enough to remember so called “Zip fuel” … <g>


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