Thanks Mark.  Sigma does have it "tax paid" for $124 / liter. I may order some, but I consider it a low priority until we can get some details on what Mizuno uses.

I might also try Everclear, (95%  Ethanol) which is only $19 at Liquor Barn. But the 5% residual water might affect the Calcite crystals. If the results weren't satisfactory, I could always add more water and drink it....

AlanG

On 7/31/2019 12:44 PM, Mark Jurich wrote:

ROSSVILLE GOLD SHIELD ETHYL ALCOHOL C2H5OH 200 POOF

ONE U.S. Pint (473 ML)

GOLD SHIELD CHEMICAL CO.

HAYWARD, CA 94545

D.S.P. – CALIF. – 151

(Use to be in a Glass Container, now Plastic L)

(STAMP SEAL, but the purification process usually leaves trace amounts of benzene, so please do NOT drink it!)

Happy Hunting,

Mark Jurich

*From:*AlanG <a...@magicsound.us>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2019 11:25 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

Ethanol is usually available in the US only as denatured Ethanol, even as "reagent grade". The additives are usually Methanol and Isopropyl, at up to 10% by volume. For that reason, I have not done the test using pure Ethanol, and we don't know what Mizuno used anyway. I did confirm that CaCO3 is insoluble in alcohols. I have also added a reference in my document related to the complex ionic chemistry of CaCO3 in aqueous solution.

Regarding your second comment, note that Methanol is not added to the water soak solution, but is only used as a final rinse following the soak at 90°C, as specified by Mizuno. Such final rinsing is often done in chemical processes to remove residual water.

AlanG

On 7/31/2019 9:06 AM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Alan should make sure ethanol vs =methnol does not make any
    difference  in the deposition of caco3 crystals on the Ni mesh.Jed
    should ask Mizuno about this question.

    Bob Cook

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    *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> <mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 9:15:19 PM
    *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

    
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit


    Calcium as a LENR catalyst???

    On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:43 PM JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net
    <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

        Thanks Jeff –

        This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it
        may seem at first - has long been claimed to have a number of
        optical properties which look like they are related to hydrino
        creation.

        On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited
        paper, which is the emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the
        peak is at 580 nm.

        Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where
        the metal switches sharply from photon reflector to perfect
        absorber is at 590 nm. That would only be relevant if calcium
        carbonate has its peak at about the same value.

        There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough
        relates more to Mills’ theory than to LENR.

        Jones

        *From: *Jeff Driscoll <mailto:jef...@gmail.com>

        and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where
        limelight is given off when hydrogen is exposed to the
        material at high temperature:

        
http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight

        On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jones Beene
        <jone...@pacbell.net <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

            For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on
            dense hydrogen (hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored
            catalyst. This could be important (or not) in the context
            of the recent Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has not
            been mentioned before but perhaps it should be (at least
            listed as a possibility) due to a few other related details.

            The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is
            inverted and notably calcium is the one of the few for
            this level of shrinkage. There is complementary catalysis
            with the other potential catalysts present, since there is
            palladium - first level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level,
            nickel 7th and 11th and now calcium in the middle - so
            that there is a deepening progression which could set up a
            cascade of some kind.

            If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory -
            then this spread of catalysis values could be relevant in
            the context of Alan Goldwater's new report on his early
            stage effort at replication where he finds calcium:

            
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

            Really nice insight by Alan.


--
        Jeff Driscoll
        617-290-1998


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