Jed-- I tend to agree with you and MF conclusion regarding the primary LOCAL effect of the Pd-D system.
HOWEVER, I consider that neutrinos are involved in nuclear structures made up of electrons, positrons and neutrinos –both types. anti and regular. Thus, depending upon the resonant matching of the coherent system energy, most or much energy may escape the system without causing much heat in the form of phonic lattice excitement of the coherent system energy state transition during a LENR. This notion reflects a general lack of knowledge regarding the physics of neutrinos and its validation. The following link addresses some of this lack of knowledge, most important being experimental validation IMHO. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/718/6/062076/pdf The US Patent application: https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Yanming+Wei was also considered in understanding neutrino physics validation and low energy neutrino focusing by certain nuclear isomeric species. Bob Cook ________________________________ From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:59:47 PM To: Vortex <vortex-L@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Uploaded LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989 LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989. Santa Fe, NM: Los Alamos National Laboratory Program Committee, Agenda and Abstracts https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LANLworkshopon.pdf This shows that there was a lot of support for cold fusion research at the DoE initially. A number of these abstracts list DoE grants. In retrospect, I wish they had spread out their support, allocating money in the years that followed, when more was understood. There were a number of researchers here doing the wrong things. Especially, people looking for nuclear effects without first confirming there was excess heat. Without measurable excess heat, there is probably no cold fusion. As Fleischmann said, heat is principal signature of the reaction.
