]Nigel— I agree with your conjecture that the photons observed are the result of a nuclear transitions of potential spin energy to the electronic system which is part of the reactant’s coherent system. The x-ray do come from excited electronic energy states as they decay at a leisurely pace to stable states. In the cavitation experiments it seems the coherent system is quite large, since the radiation is happening at detectors monitoring a source away from supposed reaction, involving the cavitating materials. VERY UNEPECTED INDEED!
It seems that the Vysotski paper avoids any data regarding isotopic changes in the cavitating fluid and/or other materials at the external dx-ray detector. in contrast to the Japanese tests reported by MFMP in their LENR “cookbook” report cited earlier in this thread. Separately it seems the fairly simple cavitation system would be a nice source of semi-coherent x-rays for any number of practical uses of industrial interest. Bob Cook ________________________________ From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:33:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Old data of interest Here is a paper from Vysotskii which documents his findings. https://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Vysotskii-Cavitation-2014-CF-LANR-MIT.pdf This is related and can partially explain the excess energy seen in cavitation pumps like the Griggs/hydrosonic type but it is probably not related to dense hydrogen. But then again, who knows? Given all of the positive press for cavitation anomalies, and lack of negative findings - especially going back to around 2011-13, (the Griggs patent goes back to 1993) it is somewhat surprising that there is not a commercially available system out there which exploits the phenomenon. Well, the pumps can be found online - and I suppose one can set one up as a DIY project but not as a proven or guaranteed heating system which delivers more heat energy than the electrical power input ... or is there such a product? Nigel Dyer wrote: A very interesting paper, particularly as you say the X ray emission. This does mirror the X-ray emission reported by Vladimir Vysotskii in his 'Cavitation/undamped thermal radiation' results which he presented at the recent water conference in Frankfurt that I was at. There were a number of us there who feel that the undamped thermal radiation is much more likely to be a variety of strange radiation. As I have mentioned before here (I think) it also looks to be linked to the gamma radiation plots at "UPDATE#1-The signal..." of http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/519-the-cookbook-is-in-the-signal My hunch is that the low frequency cutoff may be partly linked to the sensitivity of the detector, but may also link to the dimensions of the atoms involved, with the radiation being associated with a resonant interaction between the nucleus and the electrons of the atoms of the material that generates the X-rays. Nigel Jones Beene wrote: Worth mentioning in the "mystery radiation" inquiry, is this old data which presents a possible connection of LENR to dark matter by way of the purported characteristic soft x-ray emission at 3.6 keV. The citation below is a high quality 25 year old paper from Mitsubishi written by Iwamura, presented at ICCF '96. It can be found at the LENR-CANR library but has been largely overlooked, since it came out many years before the astrophysics of dark matter - which now purportedly link to a soft x-ray peak, found in hundreds of galaxies. At this time (early 1990s) Iwamura had no clue what they had found, and never got back to the same line of research despite mentioning that it was of high importance. The paper in question is: Iwamura, Y., et al. "Correlation between behavior of deuterium in palladium and occurrence of nuclear reactions"... Sixth International Conference on Cold Fusion,1996. http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYcorrelatio.pdf The relevant data is easy to miss (I hope that I have not misinterpreted it). Please have a look at the second graph (Fig 4) on page 6 - the lower one which correlates the energy of the mystery radiation to the count rate over about one week of run time. As you can see, the low end of the energy scale is exponentially higher in counts, and the range seems to be highest at the detector threshold, so with more modern detection, one can imagine that it could even have been higher (due to the steepness of the line at cutoff). For instance,there appears to be about 1000 counts at 50 keV but 100,000 counts at the low end, which is arguably around the dark matter signature at 3.6 keV. In short, the range which has the highest count rate is consistent with dark energy photons but the authors did not recognize that, of course, and made no mention of what it could be except to note its importance. So essentially this partial finding which now looks important in retrospect, was not pursued. Fortunately, the data is here and stands on its own... at least in the imagination of LENR optimists. Jones (having survived recent California wild fires and electrical power disruption...)
