Andrew— Thanks for that update on the ICCF-21 paper you and Jean-Luc prepared.
Several thoughts are renewed by my review of that paper—some physics, and some intellectual process: 1. Artificial intelligence (AI) is like the rapid evaluation of ideas collected form a large group of individuals and checked with respect to available physical models and their mathematical description for validation. The data base of available physical models (particularly the non-popular ones) is the key to good AI. The “IQ” of group intelligence depends upon this same process as AI uses, TURTLE—slow but sure. (Democracy applies the IQ of the society to desirable LAWS for social modeling.) 1. If one relativistic electron can happen, why cannot more exist, ea., 2 or all atomic electrons? (It may take some additional positrons and neutrinos to keep that many electrons together, as in a nucleon.) 2. Do we need math model that does not predict a singularity at zero. I.e., one that allows time and space to be quantized dimensions or maybe a function of volume of 3 space dimensions? I discussed this question with an old mathematician at a recent party (still within my memory) and he suggested the Dirac delta function was close to this suggestion; for reasons he did not understand, the math community did not pickup on Dirac’s idea. I WONDER WHY? Bob Cook From: Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:47 AM To: VORTEX<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dense hydrogen may facilitate water splitting Bob, Since I have been working on the deep-electron orbit model and its consequences (e.g., femto-H and femto-molecules) for the last decade, most of your questions have already been answered (see the links below - from ICCF-21- and the references therein). http://coldfusioncommunity.net/pdf/jcmns/v29/353_JCMNS-Vol29.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6zQXb-L7L8&t=136s Your suggestion about dense water is clearly an interesting extension of this work. However, the dense water would be only marginally denser since the molecule formed with femto-H and 16O could act as a 18O halo nuclide (not yet found, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_nucleus). The fact that 17O and 18O are stable nuclei means that either halo nucleus (femto-molecules) is less stable than the heavier isotopes. A study of the individual halo nuclides and their decay modes (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_boron#Boron-19 vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_boron#Boron-8) can give information about the nature of the femto-molecular bond formed between the femto-H and a heavier nucleus. I am presently writing a paper on the transition from a femto-H atom to a neutron (as a proton with an occupied deeper-electron orbit), so my responding to your comments has been useful in my thinking. Thank you. Andrew On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 8:11 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> <bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Dense hydrogen may react with some other elements to form useful dense compounds—maybe dense water. That may be a problem for biological systems, however. However it may be a good heat transfer medium with a high boiling point and a high triple point above that for light water. In the mid 60’s I remember an incident of the identification of dense water—that was the term used by the physics folks I worked with then-- and I didn’t think it was fake news. The subject went dark shortly thereafter. If dense H can be accelerated by its magnetic moment—I assume it has one—then it may act more like a neutron at some energy and fuse at relatively low energies. Dense D or T may even work to fuse at lower temperatures. I wonder if Mills has done the calculations for a D-heavy—D-heavy fusion? T-heavy may not have a decay mode with the close valence electron keeping the extra nuclear electrons in tact. (This assumes the structure of the T isotope includes many electrons and positrons as proposed by P. Hatt and validated by high energy electron scattering experiments, analyzed by W. Stubbs. I assume he would call this duetrino fusion. I would hope the temperature of a deutrino plasma would be high enough to avoid a run-away fusion reaction. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 6:42 AM To: vortex<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Dense hydrogen may facilitate water splitting This water fuel development and another one similar to it - does not mention "dense hydrogen" - only efficient water splitting. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-13415-8 This technique is claimed to be the most efficient electrolysis/ water-splitting cell yet discovered. The catalyst used - a mix of iron oxide and nickel are both associated with dense hydrogen - either the Mills effect of the Holmlid effect. Thus, there is a decent chance that in addition to normal splitting water - this technique involves the densification of some of the H2 gas as it evolves. No attempt is made to collect it, of course, since the mainstream does not accept the findings of Mills or Holmlid, so using the output gas itself as secondary catalyst or excess energy source - was not considered. Given the future importance of hydrogen - even migrating to a possible "hydrogen economy" in the future - additional catalysis or energy derived from utilizing dense hydrogen should be looked at closer (under the assumption that UDH is now only an incidental or unplanned part of the process and not optimized).
