Am 08.02.20 um 17:32 schrieb bobcook39...@hotmail.com:

Jurg—

Four questions that come to mind are:

  * What is the distance in 3-D space between the D*-D* centers needed
    to start a common rotation of their respective flux rotations?

In H*-H*/D*-D* the proton perturbative mass joins the flux in a new common rotation. Normally we should assume that a nuclear mass part assumes a nuclear orbit given by the charge radius. But all wave coupling produces a virtual charge and the radius of this virtual charge must be much larger. I did not yet try to model this new idea as I'm myself currently in a low energy mode... I once calculated it for H*-H* using 3D fields only and the result was about 2.4pm or a bit larger than what Holmlid believes. But we simply do not have enough experimental support that we would need to exclude some parts of the equation.

The first step of the formation of D*-D* is Rydberg like SO(4) spin matter. This aligns the proton spin(s) and will result in a 4-He like structure due to the added orbit force. But one open key question is: How - if - will the spin waves extend ? Does this lead to a tighter radius - stronger coupling or just to a steric more stable cluster? How do the spin orbits interact with the catalyst?

What matching is necessary of angular alignment of the axes of the respective flux rotation toruses, if any, to allow the common rotation and transition to a He* with the creation of new free space?

This is to complex to explain in an e-mail. All mass in 4-He is core "4 rotation" mass which can be decomposed from 4x 4 to 2x2 and finally 1x1. We can discuss this (details) in the workshop as it is part of the early model already.


And does the new space volume (in 3-D) have any local time associated with flux rotation frequency or is there no local frequency of magnetic flux—i.e., no flux in the new space once the photon leaves the new space?


Time is always represented by the frequency that only depends on speed of light and the total torus path length. Of course this is one key issues - how the change in topology and number of rotations influences the path length.

I did notice that some SM assumptions e.g. about live time are wrong because they use a to short path.

And Is there any specific volume in 3-D associated with the new space?


The space we finally use to calculate energy quantities is the classic 3D space. For this purpose we need to do projections. The only general thing we can do is to relate energy to lost 3D space what is a first approximation only. I can show the 4p --> 4-He changes. It would be keen to define new space measures as in 6D (SO(4)) you can have multiple forms of "space" e.g. 4D,5D volumes. One thing we know is that in SO(4) the magnetic flux runs on the higher D (4D, or 5D manifolds) torus surface and not in the 3D volume otherwise the projection would not deliver the correct results we see.

Thus if we talk of space-time conversion to photon energy then this might not 100% match the real 3D space we free, as the numbers of rotations (2 or 3) are not always the same and even more important: The real space a nucleus occupies is *given* by the *larges charge radius* that couples two orbits.

This you can see if you once check nuclear data.


But the universe expands because photons always flow outwards what generates an outward pressure! It's like a heating pot at ultra large scale.

J.W.



  * Is there any specific volume in 3-D associated with the new space?

These questions may be good to consider at the workshop.

Bob

*From: *Jürg Wyttenbach <mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>
*Sent: *Friday, February 7, 2020 2:42 PM
*To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
*Subject: *Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Superconducting Metal Hydride

I think Mills was accurate about self catalyzing of fractional hydrogen when trapped in a lattice, like cheerleaders forming a pyramid with the lattice as just the ground floor I suspect they can dilate out from the 3d base structure of the metal lattice and form blankets of fractional hydrogen in either temporal direction from the lattice.

The restriction for Mills/hydrino like condensation is given by the symmetry of the fields and space. Orbits with same mass and topology can condensate what means start a common rotation what classically frees space-time what is equivalent to releasing energy.

As said: In the Holmlid case we see such orbit pairing going downhill from 8 H* --> 2 4-He (8-Be) with a proton finally taking over the excess energy. This has nothing in common with Mills model as there always must be a final state with a higher stability/density = number of flux rotations.

There is just one more rotation possible for one symmetric mass pair and thus there is only one H*-H* state fora a pair of protons where as D*-D* can have 4 bonds.

Consequently the next H*-H* condensation only works if you have 2 H*-H* and does not work not for a single pair. This is what Mills missed.

J.W.

Am 07.02.20 um 16:54 schrieb bobcook39...@hotmail.com <mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>:

    Fran—

    You seem to imply that nature changes depending on your
    observation position—at the center of a local hydrogen at 3^rd
    base of a lattice nuclet or far away in the batter’s box.  Is my
    inference correct?

    Also you suggest more than one temporal (time) direction.  This
    suggests 3 or maybe 6 possible time directions relative to 3^rd
    base—up, down, back front left or right. Can you explain temporal
    direction in more detail?  Is there _no_global time that applies
    to all points in space, once that point is created?

    Bob Cook

    *From: *Roarty, Francis X <mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>
    *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:37 PM
    *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
    *Subject: *RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Superconducting Metal Hydride

    Hi Jones, I still suspect Casimir geometry is actually
    relativistic and the math they are using is giving the dimensions
    from  local hydrogen perspective while from our perspective the
    hydrogen inside the hydride dilates becoming both faster and
    “relatively” smaller, packing out further and further on the
    temporal axis while simultaneously getting harder and harder to
    detect from the macro world. I think Mills was accurate about self
    catalyzing of fractional hydrogen when trapped in a lattice, like
    cheerleaders forming a pyramid with the lattice as just the ground
    floor I suspect they can dilate out from the 3d base structure of
    the metal lattice and form blankets of fractional hydrogen in
    either temporal direction from the lattice.

    Fran

    *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
    <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2020 9:19 AM
    *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
    *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Superconducting Metal Hydride

    I was hoping that this new discovery would show much tighter
    hydrogen spacing - in keeping with the various theories for dense
    hydrogen.

    However, the spacing is far from pico and not extremely compact at
    all, and therefore this may result may not be related to LENR.

    Fortunately, there is a lot of work going on in superhydrides -
    and this work aligns with the long-held suspicion that a transient
    form of superconductivity at greater than room temperature - and
    the occurrence of LENR are somehow related.

    Here is a related paper on another superhydride with a massive 9:1
    atomic ratio. Ratios of nine or ten to one are possible with high
    pressure.

    https://phys.org/news/2019-10-impossible-superconductor.html

    It is only a matter of time until a breakthrough occurs in this
    field and the extreme pressures now being used, become superfluous.

    Terry Blanton wrote:

    */An international team of researchers has discovered the hydrogen
    atoms in a metal hydride material are much more tightly spaced
    than had been predicted for decades — a feature that could
    possibly facilitate superconductivity at or near room temperature
    and pressure./*

    
https://scitechdaily.com/room-temperature-superconductor-breakthrough-at-oak-ridge-national-laboratory/

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