Jed, I do not object reporting, but these blood suckers like to have
detailed reports...This would be OK for 10x more money...
Further:: A little bit more advanced experiments need high level
equipment. Like a multi target PVD coater, a good galvanostat and access
to a decent XRF just to name 3 gadgets, where a good PVD starts at 50k$
without any addons like expensive targets.
I think that providing gadgets would be the better approach than
spending money. That way you can switch it between groups or groups
could provide some services (like PVD,XRF) to other groups.
E.g. we just evaluate access to a good PVD. With the proper machine and
the correct targets you can do one process step in one day. Then for
months 50k stay idle doing nothing...
J.W.
On 18.08.2023 16:50, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jürg Wyttenbach <ju...@datamart.ch> wrote:
Not a single experienced researcher will spend more than a few
seconds to read such outraging nonsense as writing progress
reports every 3 months for e.g. 25k $ funding is just a bad joke...
I have given several researchers funding, with no strings attached. I
definitely want a progress report every 3 months. It is not reasonable
to take someone's money and then not tell them what you are doing with
it. A short but substantive report every three months is entirely
reasonable.
==> Get maximal information for a minimum of money.
When I contribute money to an experiment with no strings attached (no
intellectual property for me), then I stipulate the results be
published in full, on a timely basis. The researcher would be free to
file for a patent before publishing, but it must be published. No
philanthropist wants to pay for research that remains secret. There is
no point. So not only would I get "maximal information" but so would
anyone else in the world. This is entirely reasonable.
Do you expect people to give money unconditionally? What would be the
point of funding research with no progress reports that will remain
secret? That is not science. You need to look at this from the point
of view of the person giving the money.
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