(sorry if you are getting this twice)

Nice analysis.

If the cavity is at a lower pressure than the surrounding
fluid, does the surface tension of the fluid act like the
hull of submarine?

Harry

Grimer wrote:

> In the light of the parallel between the
> "Tiny Bubbles in the Sky . . ." and the truly tiny
> bubbles in sonoluminescence I thought I'd revisit
> my files and find how the insights gained from those
> space "Bubbles" might increase understanding of the
> connection between the two.
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> The most significant recent work is, of course, that
> by Taleyarkhan. As might be expected, his claim of
> fusion has caused a similar furore as that of F&P.
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> The distinctive feature of Taleyarkhan's experiments
> was the use of neutrons to seed the bubbles rather
> than relying on: 
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> "small air bubbles already in the liquid. Using this
> new method, the team was able to produce stable
> bubbles that could expand to nearly a millimeter in
> radius before collapsing. In this way, the researchers
> stated, they were able to create the conditions
> necessary to produce very high pressures and
> temperatures."
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> Now it is significant that the high temperatures
> claimed (10 megakelvins) and the relatively huge
> expansion are the same as that claimed for the
> "Tiny Bubbles in the Sky . . .". This suggests
> that from a General Systems viewpoint we are
> dealing with the same phenomena, a highly rarified
> gas in an intense Beta-atmosphere vacuum.
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> I believe that the mistake Taleyarkhan and others
> are making is to focus their attention on the
> collapse of the bubble. In the first place we are
> not dealing with bubbles but with their inverse,
> with not-bubbles. In other words we are dealing
> with cavities.
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> Bubbles are at a higher internal pressure than
> the surrounding environment. Cavities are at a
> lower internal pressure. Therefore, though
> "Tiny cavities in the sky...." may be less poetic
> than "Tiny bubbles..." being more suggestive of
> rotten teeth than a mountain spring, it would
> be a more accurate title for this thread.
> The bubbles in the sky aren't bursting but
> collapsing.
> 
> The temperature increase in Taleyarkhan's
> cavities must take place as the cavity expands
> and the temperature of the low pressure gas
> inside the cavity increases to that of the sun's
> interior. Any action that takes place must occur
> when the cavity is large. As the cavity
> decreases in size the temperature of the
> rarified gas within will drop.
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> The same conditions must apply in the case of
> cold fusion. The temperature of the rarified
> gas within expanding cavities will increase
> to levels sufficient for fusion to take place.
> 
> What causes the expansion of the cavities in
> palladium. Who knows? Redistribution of the
> stresses inbuilt during manufacture perhaps
> giving rise to increase in compressive strains
> in some places and increase in tensile strains
> in other. 
> 
> I suppose a more likely cause is the
> differential tensile strains that arise from
> the pressure of deuterium nuclei as they
> saturate the metal.
> 
> Perhaps a more accurate name for Cold Fusion
> would be Cavitation Fusion, cos, clearly,
> that's what it is.   8-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Frank Grimer
> 
> The high temperature inside metal cavities
> also explains what the researches detected
> inside the cup and cone cavity that forms
> just prior to failure in steel. It's a
> pity I never been able to find that reference
> again. No doubt someone will turn it up one
> of these days.   8-)
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