One aspect of Mizuno's recent results bothers me. In some cases, he
reports significant excess hydrogen without anomalous excess heat, or
with only a little excess heat. I do not see how this could be, if the
hydrogen comes from pyrolysis. It seems to me that if heat is causing
pyrolysis, there must be far more heat than normal, so you would expect
to see both excess heat and excess hydrogen.
Assume there is no anomalous excess heat. In that case, because the
excess hydrogen carries off enthalpy, the total heat from the reaction
should be considerably less than the amount expected from ordinary
electrolysis. Yet the heat balance is usually close to the expected
level. How could there be just enough anomalous heat to split the water,
carry off enthalpy, and reduce overall measurable heat right back down to
the level you see with ordinary electrolysis?
Actually, another paper reports similar results:
Iizumi, K., et al. Heat Measurement During Plasma Electrolysis. in
The 12th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear
Science. 2005. Yokohama, Japan.
Unfortunately, I do not have permission to upload to this, but anyway,
the conclusion is:
The energy balances during plasma electrolyses were 100~102% and a clear
excess energy could not be detected in the experiments this time.
The current efficiencies during plasma electrolyses were 115~122%.
Furthermore, a small amount of CO2 was also detected during plasma
electrolyses by means of Gas Chromatograph. . . .
Assuming these observations are correct, I think they preclude the simple
model of excess heat causing excess hydrogen. Some other highly energetic
reaction must be occurring, and this fractures the water directly. I
cannot imagine what it would be. The explosion experienced by Mizuno
during the first minutes of electrolysis is also a complete mystery that
does not fit any model or expectation. I have a feeling the two are
related.
- Jed
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