Hi All,

I've added some material from C. Warren Hunt
to that enclosed below for your information.

Jack Smith

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Harry Veeder wrote:

Massive oil field found under Gulf

Reserves south of New Orleans could rival North Slope,
boosting U.S. supplies by 50%

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp'ARTICLE_ID=51837

Chevron and two oil exploration companies announced the
discovery of a giant oil reserve in the Gulf of Mexico
that could boost the nation's supplies by as much as 50
percent and provide compelling evidence oil is a plentiful
deep-earth product made naturally on a continuous basis.

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

The abiotic theory always sounded plausible to me, but
there's a problem with it:  The oil is still produced
very slowly.

Note that "fossil fuels" are produced continuously,
also.  In either case the problem is that the terrestrial
production rate is far slower than the current consumption
rate.  So, biotic or abiotic, there comes a day when
there isn't any more, and won't be any again for a long,
long time.

The interesting conclusion of the abiotic theory is that
there may be more large oil fields than expected, because
exploration has been guided by the biotic theory and so
the oil companies haven't looked everywhere they should.
But that still doesn't translate into anything that allows
one to conclude oil is inexhaustible at current use rates.

leaking pen wrote:

first off, how does this give evidence of an abiotic
source'  I'm missing something.

second, even if true, its formed very very slowly.
meaning we WILL run out.

On 9/12/06, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Massive oil field found under Gulf

Reserves south of New Orleans could rival North Slope,
boosting U.S. supplies by 50%

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp'ARTICLE_ID=51837

Chevron and two oil exploration companies announced the
discovery of a giant oil reserve in the Gulf of Mexico
that could boost the nation's supplies by as much as 50
percent and provide compelling evidence oil is a plentiful
deep-earth product made naturally on a continuous basis.

Known as the Jack Field, the reserve, some 270 miles
southwest of New Orleans, is estimated to hold as much as
15 billion barrels of oil.

Authors Jerome R. Corsi and Craig R. Smith say the giant
find validates the key thesis of their book, "Black Gold
Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of
Oil ," that oil did not come from the remains of ancient
plant and animal life but is made naturally by the Earth.

"We have always rejected the theories that oil and natural
gas are biological products," Corsi told WND. "Chevron's
find in the Gulf of Mexico validates our argument that the
Gulf is a huge resource for finding oil and natural gas."

The Wall Street Journal reports today the find could boost
the nation's current reserves of 29.3 billion barrels by
as much as 50 percent ...

Corsi and Smith note the power of the abiotic theory:
"Could it be that oil is abundant, nearly an inexhaustible
resource, if only we drill deep enough'"

Prior to the Jack Field discovery, the largest U.S. oil
find in the Gulf of Mexico has been the Thunder Horse ,
about 125 miles southeast of New Orleans. British Petroleum
holds a 75-percent interest with ExxonMobil to develop
the Thunder Horse. This field, too, is deep-earth oil,
with BP and ExxonMobil finding oil under one mile of water
and five miles below the seabed.

Scientists believe Mexico's richest oil field complex was
created when the prehistoric, massive Chicxulub meteor
impacted the Earth.

"Could it be that the Chicxulub meteor deeply fractured
the entire bedrock under the Gulf of Mexico'" Corsi asked
in a WND interview. "If so, we might find abundant oil
wherever we look as we begin to explore the deeper waters
of the Gulf."

Earlier this year, Cuba announced plans to hire the
communist Chinese to drill for oil some 45 miles off the
shores of Florida. This move was made possible by the
1977 agreement under President Jimmy Carter that created
for Cuba an "Exclusive Economic Zone" extending from
the country's western tip to the north, virtually to Key
West, Fla.

"If Cuba and communist China believe they too can find
oil in the Gulf, we should pull out all stops," argues
Smith. "We may be able to bring the price of gasoline
down under two dollars a gallon if oil can be found in
these huge quantities within our territorial waters. It's
crazy to think we should be dependent on foreign oil when
we've made Mexico our number two supplier of oil with the
reserves Mexico has found in the Gulf."

"Thomas Gold should feel vindicated today," Corsi added,
referring to the Cornell University astronomer who in
1998 published "The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil
Fuels," a book that also challenged the conventional wisdom
on the origin of oil ...

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http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/documents/abstracts/2005research_calgary/abstracts/extended/hunt/hunt.htm

Hydrides and Anhydrides

C. Warren Hunt

1119 Sydenham Road SW

CALGARY, ALBERTA, CANADA T2T 0T5

Tel. (403)-244-3341, Fax (403) 244-2834

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hydrogen being 90% or more of all matter in the Universe,
must have been abundantly present in the formation of
the early earth. The consensus among scientists has been
that most primordial hydrogen was expelled as the earth
accreted. New evidence challenges the consensus raises
questions as to the validity of other long-held geological
concepts.

The new evidence involves the behavior of hydrogen nucleii,
which at pressures characteristic of mantle depths have
shed their electrons and inject themselves inside the first
electron rings of metal atoms. Thus sequestered within the
earth, hydrogen may comprise as much as 30-40 percent of
total earth mass today.

Hydrogen penetration into metals was demonstrated by
Vladimir N. Larin, a geologist, whose project over the last
34 years has been research in the USSR and FSU on sources
of natural hydrogen. Three major effects result from the
phenomenon: (1) transmutation, (2) densification, and (3)
fluidization ...

>From this data it is easily shown that the excess core and
mantle density above that of the crust can be attributed
to injected hydrogen, and the density differences between
inner core, outer core, and lower mantle can be treated
as phase effects. In this scenario the idea of an iron
core is superfluous.

V.N. Larin demonstrated the fluidity of titanium hydride
for this writer by setting a ruby in plasticized titanium
intermetal. Under reduced pressure the hydrogen bled off,
allowing the metal to recrystallize and leave the ruby
set firmly in metallic titanium.

The potassium and titanium behaviors are not unique. All
elements but noble gases form hydrides, some readily,
others not so readily. Thus, a mixture of non-metal
hydrides and fluidic intermetals that comprised
the interior of the primordial earth should undergo
fractionation and coalescense of components on the basis
of mobility and density differences.

Non-metal hydrides, H2O, NH3, H2S, CH4, that were present
during accretion of the earth would have been the first
to go. Expelled, they accumulated as atmosphere and
hydrosphere. Solar wind bombardment and dissociation
of non-metal hydrides allowed hydrogen to escape into
space. This left residual oxygen and nitrogen to build up
in the atmosphere, which then enabled a transformation in
the biosphere. Replacement of the early Archean biota of
hydrogen-tolerant prokaryotes by oxygen-tolerant eukaryotes
in the late Archean is clear evidence of the conversion
of the atmosphere at that time.

Intermetal hydride plumes would follow. Coalescing on
the bases of differential fluidity and density, viscous
intermetal plumes rise buoyantly through the mantle,
perhaps lubricated by hydrides of the earth's third most
abundant element, the transition element, silicon. Rising
into regimes of reduced pressure the intermetals dissociate
or oxidize, creating crust in the forms of rock-forming
minerals and metal ores.

The hydrides of silicon, the silanes (SiH4, Si2H6,
Si3H8, Si4H10, etc.) are of special interest. Gases at
standard conditions, they react vigorously with water,
producing quartz, volcanic ash, and rock-forming minerals,
depending on depth, pressure and the admixture of other
metal hydrides. The high mobility of silane explains
the mode of transfer of silicon from the interior to
the oxidic crust. Crust then is the residue after silane
and intermetal oxidation and release of hydrogen, which
eventually escapes into space.

Carbon, the sister element of silicon, is a lesser
component of earth makeup, but probably is prominent in
the form of carbides in the interior. Its primary hydride
form, methane (CH4), although energy-laden like silane,
behaves quite differently in three important contrasting
ways. First, it does not react with water; second, its
combustion products are only gases; and third, it enables
the biosphere.

Where silane is stalled in the crust by reacting with
water, methane and hydrogen released by its partial
oxidation proceed upward in fracture pathways. Methane and
hydrogen seep into deep, shield mines and through porous
members of sedimentary series. Both are major constituents
of fluid inclusions in sub-oceanic basalts as well as in
shield granites. Their migration is differentially impeded
due to their different molecular sizes. Methane may be
trapped temporarily, while hydrogen escapes. Both enter
the atmosphere worldwide on a large scale.

Thus the hydridic earth image comprises a mobile inner
geosphere of highly-reduced, dense, intermetals and
carbides, an outer geosphere of oxidic rock that has
accumulated incrementally through geological time, and
a transient liquid-gas envelope. The image implies a
core that is neither iron nor very hot, because the heat
source for endogeny is primarily not primordial heat but
the chemical energy released in the upper mantle and lower
crust, near the crust-mantle boundary by hydride oxidation.

Hydrocarbons other than methane are partially oxidized
carbon forms, and thus unlikely to occur in any form but
methane in the earth's interior where extreme reducing
conditions prevail. When methane rises to outer crust
levels from the interior, its chemical energy is available
to metabolize bacteria and archaea that live there in total
darkness at elevated temperatures. They get that energy
by stripping hydrogen from the methane and oxidizing it
metabolically.

When bacteria and archaea strip hydrogen from methane,
they create 'anhydrides' of methane, CH3, CH2, etc. Two
CH3s combine to make C2H6, ethane; two CH3s and one
CH2 make C3H8, propane, etc. The process is known on
the surface, where outcrops of petroliferous strata
sometimes are sealed by bacterially produced tar seals
behind which live oil has accumulated. In this case,
bacteria have stripped hydrogen from live oil, rendering
it immobile. Anhydride theory merely extrapolates the
process backward to explain stripping of methane, the
lowest carbon numbered hydrocarbon. Petroleum can be
interpreted as degenerated methane, a product of the
biosphere. Petroleum produced by bacterial stripping of
methane is, a mixture of anhydrides of methane, an organic
product produced from inorganic methane.

Coal and oil shales are also anhydride products. In peat
and kerogen-rich shales, partially oxidized carbon is
present that has lost electrons and thus carries positive
charges. By contrast, the carbon in methane that effuses
from the highly reduced earth interior has acquired
electrons and is negatively charged. Opposite charges
cause capture of effusing methane by peat and kerogen. Once
captured, methane is stripped progressively of its hydrogen
by bacteria and archaea that naturally occur in the peat
and kerogen.

The terminal anhydride, pure carbon, the main component of
the purest coals and asphaltites, and protein molecules
(porphyrins and others) that are found in petroleum and
coal are molecular residues of organic origin. The fact
that coal and oil shales have more carbon and hydrogen
than their peat and fossil predecessors is clear evidence
that fossils cannot fully explain their origins. These
high carbon and hydrogen contents of oil shales and coals
require abiogenic additions, whereas organic molecules
require organic provenance. Methane and petroleum found in
coal seams and organic shales should be seen as evidence
of methane capture, not methane generation.

The topology of petroleum occurrence is a further defeat
for the argument in favour of either an exclusively organic
or exclusively abiogenic origin for petroleum. If oil
were either rising from primordial sources in the earth's
interior or created in 'oil windows' by catagenesis,
the more mobile fractions would escape from the depths
and be found more abundantly near the surface and less
mobile fractions, low gravity oils, would be present at
depth. Exactly the opposite is the norm. Methane gas,
the most mobile hydrocarbon, is more abundant with depth,
worldwide; and tars, the least mobile, are most abundant
at and near the surface.

Working backwards through the above points, we can
say that:

Topologies of hydrocarbon occurrences indicate that methane
effuses from the interior, not petroleum;

that Topologies of hydrocarbon occurrences indicate that
low-gravity oil is not generated at depth in oil windows;

that Methane beneficiates fossiliferous shales and peat
deposits, creating oil shales and coal. Oil shales and
coal do not generate methane;

methane generates oil shales and coal;

that Bacteria and archaea in the outer crust strip
hydrogen from methane progressively through condensates,
high gravity oil, and low gravity oil, to bitumens;

that Hydrides of silicon and carbon along with intermetals
rise into crustal levels where dissociation and oxidation
liberate the heat of endogeny and deposit rock-forming
minerals, and metal deposits, leaving only methane and
hydrogen to effuse into the atmosphere;

that Nonmetal hydrides escaping from the interior of
the primordial earth created a reducing atmosphere that
was changed over to oxygen-rich by the loss of hydrogen
to space;

and that The discovery that hydrogen nuclei under pressure
penetrate atomic shells of metals, transmuting the metals
to intermetals, densifying them, and fluidizing them,
creates an entirely new geological picture of the earth's
interior, of endogeny, and of the mode by which the crust
was created.


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