I fully agree! I was cast out because my thought was a bit different, the sons may have ... with mother. Anyway however you look at it, it must indeed be the way it was. So is this where the "we are all Brothers & Sisters" came from. Hey this is not what I wanted to present in what I said.
Okay where did these "Atoms" come from? Don't skirt the issue and say they "WERE". This is similar to saying 'God' is void of form? Maybe this is not a direct quote as it has been 50 some years from the time I read a Bible. This is not the issue. "WE", mortals have no real concept of where and how we evolved, we add volumes of information, yet we ignore (?) "well those first atom were just there". :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:11 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]: We are Scientists? > > > When one looks at what is going on at the bio level and has a summary > knowledge of the molecular level, if you are sane, you will not remain for > long. > > > very much agreed on that above statement. and im a christian myself, > though i do believe it quite possible life started by "accidental" > comingling of atoms. possible, not definate. > > also, if one researches non king james versions, all the other people > came from adam having sex with his daughters. yes, yes he did, its in > there. (abel being dead and caine off and wandering for several > hundred years) > > On 12/15/06, R Stiffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just returning from the next to last lecture for the tour of > 2006 and must > > admit that I am happy that this year is over, along with > reaching 64 years > > of age one begins to mellow out and see the world in a different view. > > > > I was asked if I thought there was a God? I was honest and > answered that I > > was agnostic, even though I was raised as a German Lutheran. I further > > stated that I did indeed believe in some higher or controlling power, > > although I did have trouble in handling the traditional view of > someone "Up > > There" pulling the puppets strings. > > > > I went on to explain that I was 100% a logical scientist up to > the time I > > viewed my first image of a bacterium under a microscope. I started as an > > Electronics Engineer and logic and formulae worked well in > making everything > > make perfect sense. But then I had this itch to do something in Biology, > > mistake indeed as it crumbled my world. > > > > When one looks at what is going on at the bio level and has a summary > > knowledge of the molecular level, if you are sane, you will not > remain for > > long. > > > > I will state categorically that the universe did not begin by > some haphazard > > copulation of some random atoms. What all scientists want to > ignore is where > > did those initial atoms come from that started it all. We for > some reason > > need to put all things into neat little boxes, nice concise > equations with > > "Assumptions" and derived "Constants" to make it work together. > > > > The micro and the macro are meaningless we have no clue! I > remember so clear > > the day I was expelled from Catechism when I asked where all the other > > people came from to aid in the creation of mankind as it took > more (morally) > > than what we assume happened in the "Garden of Eden". > > > > So I now had to answer that I did not believe in "God" until he > cast me into > > eternal "Hell", yet I did indeed believe in something far > beyond what any > > mortal being can comprehend. I still with a double doc., know > fully that we > > are but "Infinitesimal Parts" in a play that our science and > logic in unable > > to comprehend only pretend. > > > > If we stopped this rush towards monetary gain, power over > others and took > > our young or old or very old bodies out to an open space and > lay upon the > > ground and looked up into the sky and slowed up enough to see > the wonders > > above, or pulled a microscope to our eyes and looked at a "Prokaryote" > > moving in its world and doing what it does in its small way aid > or destroy > > our life, we if we are indeed intelligent will see that our > wanting to put > > everything in a box or attach a formula to it, is such a pitiful thing > > indeed. > > > > Have a Happy Holiday! Don't let Nature get you down, just > follow her, as you > > are. > > > > > > > -- > That which yields isn't always weak. >