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From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:


> 
> 
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>> On 12/20/06, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean reduce resistance?
>>
>> For a given voltage the time for the current to rise to 67% of its
>> steady state value is given by L/R.

It's about 63% actually (1-exp(-1)), not that it makes much difference :)
Michel 

> Since I must achieve a certain
>> current to achieve a certain magnetic field strength of the
>> electromagnet, the rise time is essentially wasted duty cycle.  If I
>> am duty cycle limited, I want to minimize the rise time.
> You're also throwing away a lot of energy by "charging" the coil fresh 
> and then shutting it off again each time the motor goes around.  Most of 
> the energy you pump into the coil is presumably just wasted when you 
> open the circuit a few milliseconds later.
> 
> Is there any way you could "save" the energy?  Maybe put a big cap in 
> parallel with the coil, sized so the resonance frequency of the LC pair 
> matches the motor's expected rotation rate.  Then the external power to 
> it which drove its oscillation would just have to make up for resistive 
> losses and provide the energy to pull the rotor over the hump -- you 
> wouldn't be paying for the energy to pump up the B field every time around.
> 
> I don't know if that would actually be practical, though.
> 
>>
>> The obvious way is to raise the voltage; but, I don't want to exceed
>> 0.5 times the break down voltage of the insulation.  As Jones points
>> out, I could use a different core; but, the super permalloy (aka
>> spermalloy :-) being used is probably the best choice.
>>
>> I think we've decided that the least expensive approach for now is to
>> use solid CO2 to increase the duty cycle of the EM by pulling out any
>> heat generated by the coil.  (BTW, Jones, virtually every local
>> supermarket sells dry ice these days.)  Besides, the condensing water
>> vapor will give the whole test rig that mad scientist look.  :-)
>>
>> Ironic that one of the goals of a magnetic motor is to reduce
>> greenhouse gas emissions, however.
>>
>> Terry
>>
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