On 2/5/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 You are calling it right?

I have been in and out of groups for over 12 years now and it has not
changed. The hands on people are 1% of the listers. I have cried foul often
about the arm chair crowd and they just tell me to 'MOVE ON'.


I  hate theory, but must add that understanding what is going on with this
technology is important if it is to become a science.
This means observation and correlation.
Gravity, magnetism, electricity are not theories, ideas of how they work are
theories.
Recognizing other fundamental forces in the universe and correlations and
observations from different FE/AG devices isn't theory but is critical to
piecing this together.

I guess ego and self stroking gets them off more than doing and seeing a
positive or negative result. Maybe I just hit on it, they can not stand up
to failure.


Personally I find negative results hard to take so I think 10 times more
than experiment.
I'd be quite ok with a list that excluded everyone that did no experiments,
what use are they?

I'm sick and tired of the 'Math Says It Can't Be' if we were doing what
could be, then it would be done...


I agree, plus the 'math' types  will still insist it can't work even when
the math says it can.
I think the speech about the 'ugly nest of believers' needs to be heard
again.

I have failed and screwed up and mis-represented so many times I lost count,
_BUT_ I'm building systems, doing experiments and seeing my retirement
decrease daily as a result. But, never have I looked in the mirror and said
'I know this is not so because the math says so'.

Well John I don't see it happening, at least not until we are all back
with candles and eating our dogs. Guess the educational system has at last
won.


No, actually you've hit on one of the key Free Energy principles, amplified
power transfer where 2 coils transfer power through unusual distances and
seem to be OU. (despite how you dislike the term)

I can assure you that what you achieved with Barium can be achieved with
totally different cores (or no core), that's not to say the barium wasn't
critical in your experiment, just that it isn't the only thing that can
allow a transformer to do that.

Take care, took guts to make the post.

-----Original Message-----
*From:* john herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* [Vo]: Re: vortex-digest Digest V2007 #50



Dear Vo.,

  General post:

   Open question set:

   NB:  This is intended to address real world science.  NOT theory.
Please defive term[s] and or experiment[s] which support answer.

  This is an attempt to guide vortex back toward science, as opposed to
armchair
thinking and the like.

   (A)  Can any one give examples of monopoles?

   (B)  Will anyone describe real world science that encompasses
supporting
experiments that might guide others toward energy convesion of ANY
type and  useful and or unusual energy conversion ... prefer conversion
to electric energy.  amps and volts required.

   (C)  Any new work of any type which fits with above...[not theory]

         I am sure not everyone is restricted to theory or guess or
armchair alone

  I may be wrong... but do not see same over the last 5 to 7 YEARS...!!!
Herma john






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