On Friday 23 February 2007 09:59, Zell, Chris wrote: > I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but > if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I > think we need > to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe. This > could be one of those little experiments with big implications. > > http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/02/a_history_of_dark_matter.html
later on in the forum there is this thread about 'perpetual motion machines'. The whole idea of 'free energy' to some folks is not believable inasmuch as the source of this 'extra energy' is not seen or understood. Same as the above 'mysteriousely appearing' proton from an arc discharge. If the proton indeed came out of the void (aether, whatever), so also could energy, as that proton mass would be so many electron volts. Suppose there is really some new physics here that would render the seemingly nonsensical to those of limited vision......sensable. It may be that our view of our universe is really incomplete after all, and that the conservation theory may really not be in danger. If the energy comes from 'somewhere else' , then that 'somewhere else' lost that energy to 'somewhere here' and conservation is again satisfied. Standing Bear