Not sure what you mean Robin, drawing welcome, I suspect it resembles a NASA 
design where the wire was replaced by a sharp edge. I don't see how the thrust 
could exceed the rate of change of momentum transmitted from the ions to the 
air i*d/mu though, as this experimentally verified formula already assumes zero 
air resistance of the lifter structure. Also beware that charges deposited on 
insulators interact with the discharge!

(BTW it's Coanda, not Coander)

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame


> In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:27:04 +0100:
> Hi Michel,
> [snip]
>>Doing calculations in an accelerating frame makes me sick I am afraid ;-) But 
>>I guess it would be the same force, since it's not a ficticious one like e.g. 
>>the centrifugal force.
>>
>>My turn to give you some homework Harry, could you try the new 
>>multiwire-plane design guide I posted earlier today and let me know how 
>>usable it is? Say design the mother of all lifters, with the following specs:
>>
>>100 kg thrust, 1 m gap, 0.9 kV/mm
>>
>>Power consumption, area, wire spacing?
>>
>>Michel
> [snip]
> Someone should try a flying saucer shaped lifter, with a circular wire ring on
> top as positive electrode, and disk shaped cathode underneath. The advantage 
> of
> this is that you get extra lift from the Coander effect. The body should be a
> good insulator (styrafoam?).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robin van Spaandonk
> 
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
> 
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> Cooperation (communism) provides the means.
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