John Berry wrote:
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> On 3/4/07, *Stephen A. Lawrence* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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>     OK so far?  (Note that we didn't need gamma for anything here -- I
>     just used the metric to find the proper distances.)
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> I think we can stick to thought experiments and dump equations.

If you think you can understand the gedanken experiments without using
equations, you are deluding yourself.

If you think you can understand relativity without understanding and
applying the mathematics on which it's based, you're deluding
yourself.

Throughout, you ignore the math and just assert things are "bunk" to
prove them wrong.  It's pointless to attempt to explain anything to
you as long as you refuse to address the mathematics, and just use
"intuition" and guesswork to "prove" things.

You said, regarding relativity:

> I spent years learning it

I find that very hard to believe, since you don't appear to have
understood even the extremely basic concept of relativity of
simultaneity, but instead just assert it is "bunk".

If you care to address the math -- and try actually _working_ _out_
some of the answers to the questions you raise, rather than just
asserting that they can't be answered in SR because it's illogical --
we can continue the conversation.  Otherwise it's pointless.

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