I don't know the particular experiment you mention Jones, but what I do know for having done extensive work on the subject is that pulsed power such as can be found in electrical discharges, especially sparky ones, is extremely difficult to measure.
I fully agree that much more of the big oil profits should go to alternative energy research, but I am not as certain as you are that hot fusion is dead-end wasteful spending. I believe it should have its chance, only other research should have its chance too which is not presently the case. Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Negentropy - honed to a point > > Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > >>> However, Graneau et al. have shown that lowly water, at lest some types >>> of H2O, *does* have an unexplained energy component which can be >>> released. One of their papers also appears in "Infinite Energy". > >> Since they use high voltage electrical discharges to accomplish this >> (AFAIK), it >> seems to me that their results can adequately be explained by Hydrinos, > > I was not trying to explain Graneau's findings, so much as to suggest > that they have produced repeatable, believable results which are > unexplained, and greatly in need of more R&D. They think that the excess > energy in water is derived from solar - and that seems likely. > > Instead of supporting this work, in our beloved USA -- it is deemed > wiser to grant big oil, like Exxon, massive tax-breaks to go along with > their obscene profits, and to support dead-end wasteful spending on hot > fusion instead. Go figure. > > And any rate, if hydrinos are involved in the Graneau results, which is > also the most likely explantion IMHO based on what we know - then there > is no great conflict with your view, except that they are natural, > solar-derived, and brought in with the solar wind - which is why they > turn up in rain water, which gives the best results in that experiment. > > We may never know the answer, if big-oil has its way and can keep > putting its minions in high office. > > Jones > > BTW Exxon has been posting the highest quarterly profits in history - > why do they need tax breaks ? How long before they too can move > corporate offices to Dubai to escape congressional scrutiny? > > $10.71 billion for the fourth quarter of 2005 and $36.13 billion for the > full year. If they had been forced to pay half of that for alternative > R&D ... Oh never mind. It is too painful too imagine the extent of our > lost opportunities recently - to change the world for the better. >