In reply to  thomas malloy's message of Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:20:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>In an automobile engine with spark plugs, spark voltages are typically in the 
>>thousands to tens of thousands of volts. This is ideal territory for a 
>>Hydrino Breeder, 
>>
>Interesting post Robin. I'm wondering if the right design of spark plug 
>could react hydrinos.

I have always thought so, however breeding is even better.

>>If the fuel comprises a mixture of Hydrogen and Oxygen, with a few well 
>>shrunken hydrinos thrown in, then in the hot plasma of the spark, the 
>>breeding. 
>>
>So, if the refinery had a hydrino generator, and the hydrino hydride 
>were incorporated into the fuel, then the plasma could be expected to 
>produce anomalous energy. 

Refineries shouldn't be necessary. When you have a breeder, 1 hydrino is enough
to make all you need from plain water (in theory; in practice, it might take a
few more ;).

>Perhaps fuel already contains naturally 
>occurring hydrinos, or perhaps they're in the air.

I would expect to find them in the water vapor in air, though not many.

>
>> Joe (of Joe cell fame), is reported to have placed an Aluminium barrier 
>> between the his cell and
>>
>So you think that the Joe Cell is a hydrino generator.

Yes, I always have done. In fact I suspect that "orgone" is just another name
for Hydrinos.

>
>>
>> completely clean reaction. E.g. O15 might occur because of
>>the presence of Nitrogen in the air.
>>
>>
>Doesn't O15 occur naturally?

No, O15 is radioactive with a half life of only 2 minutes, so even if it is
created (e.g. in lightning), it soon decays.
However if everyone were continually spewing it out their exhaust, we would soon
have a real problem on our hands.

One way around this might be to replace the air being drawn into the engine with
steam, thus removing nitrogen from the equation. However this still leaves the
possibility of creating radioactive F or Ne isotopes. How serious a problem that
would be, would have to be determined experimentally.

>
>>In the long term, vehicles may be built with an on board lifetime supply of 
>>either O18 or Ar40,
>>
>Don't O18 and Ar40 occur naturally? 

Yes, that's why an on board supply would be cheap. You would buy a car with a
lifetime supply of fuel (in a small bottle of compressed gas in the engine
compartment).

>I think that the hydrino is the 
>missing part of this. I think that this would make for a very good 
>experiment.

So do I, now if I could only find someone with a decent lab that didn't start
laughing when they saw me coming.

BTW if an engine can be a breeder, then there would probably still be a few
Hydrino molecules in the exhaust, so recycling a fraction of the exhaust should
be enough to ensure a continuous supply.

BTW, since about 1 % of the air is argon, it may be possible to react this
directly as well as the O18 in the air. That would bump up the power output to 
2200 hp (if all the Argon were used), obviously soon destroying the engine.
Variation in the size of initial hydrinos in the compressed air prior to
ignition would have a huge impact on power output, as size severely affects the
fusion rate. Since none of the water power enthusiasts know anything about this,
they will get a random mix of Hydrinos in their engine (and that's when they are
lucky enough to get any at all), and the power output will consequently be
extremely variable. This is where a consistent supply of single level Hydrinos
could have huge impact on the utility of the engine. Some experimentation would
be needed to determine the optimal Hydrino size.

Oxygen is likely to react much faster than Ar because it has a much smaller
positive charge on the nucleus, so it remains to be experimentally determined
just what contribution Ar could make.

BTW a quick check reveals that O18 actually yields 16 MeV rather than 10 MeV, so
the 43 hp previously calculated should really have been about 70 hp.

Actually, these numbers are pretty meaningless. What one would actually get in
practice depends greatly on how fast the fusion reaction is, and that could be
anywhere from nanoseconds to years.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/

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