OK done on the forum and I suggested a way to close the loop on the kinetica toy that we've seen in you tube.
Lets see if they can clarify a little.

John Berry wrote:

Ok, there is only one question I need answered from Steorn.

I know Free Energy exists in the form they claim, I have not the slightest doubt. However when it comes to their device I have never heard a straight answer to 'Does it run closed loop'

I'd ask on the forum but I can't post yet.

So maybe you could Wesley, on my behalf, simply put can Steorn or failing that one of the witnesses give a solid answer to:

Has the loop been closed? Has it been run with no input power beyond an initial impulse to get it started and done useful work continuously? (or run under any other fair closed loop (no input) type conditions)


If the answer to this is a yes no Jury is needed, and if the answer to that is 'No' a Jury with positive findings might even fail to utterly convince me.


On 4/13/07, *Wesley Bruce* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Ok that's good its still useful information. I and others need that
    data. Nice to see that its not bad news. Several sites on the web are
    expecting bigger things. Maybe I should pass this to them. Thanks
    I know
    what to look for and when. I have time to do a few chores. Feb to
    August
    is still quite a long testing schedule.

    John Berry wrote:

    >     rosco:I can see a misconception storm gathering.
    >
    >     By tech specs i think Sean has made it pretty clear on many
    >     occasions that he means power generation details and nothing
    more.
    >     (i think)
    >
    >
    >
    > Yep, rosco is right - see the "Sean quote reference point" thread:
    >
    http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661&page=2#Item_7
    <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661&page=2#Item_7>
    >
    <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661&page=2#Item_7
    <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661&page=2#Item_7>>
    >
    > On 4/13/07, *John Berry* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
    >
    >         HelixMultiverse: It's Friday 13th April 2007, 08.55 but I
    >         can't see any update yet. Anyone know where the update will
    >         appear on website (I've looked under 'News') or at what
    time?
    >
    >         HM
    >
    >
    >
    >     Steorn: We plan to put the update up after lunch (for the video,
    >     text update at 6pm). I will also point out that there is no
    'big'
    >     news here at all, as I stated many times over the last few
    months.
    >     Its a quick update on what has happen since last August,
    primarily
    >     designed for those who do not spend hours everyday on this
    forum!
    >     Regular forum members will see little that is new, its
    pretty much
    >     all been said in here.
    >
    >
    >     Suomipoika:I'm not sure I'm following. Are you going to release
    >     the detailed technical specifications to the public as you
    >     promised or not?
    >
    >         Seconded. Is there going to be a text update with these
    specs
    >         alongside the video update?
    >
    >
    >
    >     Steorn: Yes, this will go up later in the day, around 6 PM GMT
    >     (the video update will go up around lunchtime).
    >
    >     Suomipoika:: Excellent! Thanks for the answer!
    >     You said there's not gonna be anything new we forum members
    didn't
    >     already knew. Why did you say so? Now you ARE going to release
    >     detailed technical specs, and that's definitely new information
    >     (and BIG news) for everybody. Did you change your mind after my
    >     question?
    >
    >
    >     On 4/13/07, *Wesley Bruce* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
    >
    >         John Berry wrote:
    >
    >         > On 4/13/07, *Wesley Bruce* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
    >         > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote:
    >         >
    >         >
    >         >     PS Why are the Re:[Vo] subject line prefixes
    stacking up?
    >         >
    >         >
    >         > Because it's a stupid [EMAIL PROTECTED] script and it should be 
nixed.
    >         (or fixed)
    >         >
    >         Yep. Thats what I thought.
    >         What's the old saying about watched pots they never
    boils. I'm
    >         watching
    >         the Steorn website for any action but its only 10 am in
    Dublin
    >         so I'm a
    >         little early.
    >         An "every things Ok" post would not take any time at all.
    >         Anything major
    >         should be later in the day. They will need time for a
    morning
    >         coffee,
    >         briefing and preparation, checking the server etc, then
    blame
    >         or fizz
    >         depending on the situation. A launch on Friday means the
    >         shouting match
    >         happens while the stock market is closed. That way they
    can't
    >         be accused
    >         of playing the market. That's just a guess but that's the
    >         accusation
    >         they face.
    >
    >
    >



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