Hi Jones,

I am not an expert, all I can tell is that diesel cars of all sizes have become 
much more popular than gasoline cars over here in Europe, because gazole is 
considerably less expensive than gasoline, plus consumption is lower, plus the 
engine lasts longer, plus more recent models pollute less than same power gas 
models I am told. Japanese cars also have a good reputation over here, and most 
of them have an excellent diesel version.

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 9:06 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Most efficient small diesel ?


>A google search for the most efficient production
> diesel turns up many candidates overseas, but zero
> made in the USA. Ours are typically larger V8 designs
> of over 5 liters, used in trucks
> 
> Among the best is a 35 year old engine design. The
> Peugeot 205 diesel (1.9 liter) of one respondent to a
> survey was made in 1991. He says it has 120k miles yet
> still gets over 60mpg on every tank -motorway (80mph)
> or round town even "towing a trailer I still get over
> 60 mpg." 
> 
> Very unscientific, but typical of other claims for
> this engine. If Michele is tuned-in, perhaps he would
> have some comment on this or other Euro-diesel
> engines. In the USA, we seem to have been really
> screwed, legislatively, by not having access to
> anything close.
> 
> This engine, designed in the 1970's in France has a
> few quirks but is claimed by some to be by far the
> most efficient small diesel engine ever produced. VW
> also has a claim for that distinction in Germany and
> did import one into the USA 30 years ago, which nobody
> wanted then (hard to cold-start for one thing).
> Needless to say, both engines are now banned for
> import into the USA. Go figure. 
> 
> Well ... having some experience with Peugeots, they
> are generally not competitive quality-wise with the
> Japanese here anyway - but GM or Ford should at least
> be importing the engine, no ?
> 
> I would think that if this design were converted to
> the 6-cycle steam version, and then fitted out as a
> single speed hybrid - it  would get 75-80 mpg easy...
> This is the kind of thing GM needs for credibility -
> even if it is not a huge seller.
> 
> Jones
>

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