Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
> To all, and some in particular, and some not in particular....
>
> Please READ people's posts before posting replies. That means the whole
> damned thing, whether or not you agree with it. If you do not take the
> time to read the entire thing, either because you are too lazy to do so,
> or because the content disgusts you, then you do not have the necessary
> courage or fortitude to make a decent reply. Period. Exclamation point.
> At sign. Divide by. (you get the point I suppose)
>
> Case in point: Jeff Fink was attacked for being supposedly on the side
> of the oil companies. He specifically stated in more than one post that
> he is all for getting OFF of the addiction to oil. Stop attacking people
> when you do not read the entire post.


Please no offense intended, but your email is blatant Ad hominem and hate. Global Warming is vitally important. If Jeff made huge errors then a person has every write to show Jeff his errors and not have to worry hurting Jeff's feelings. I'm certain Jeff is strong and can take truth, especially when it comes to a vitally important topic as Global Warming.




> Again, WHY is it that the side which questions Global Warming as caused
> by technology the polite and thoughful side,


That's your interpretation.




> yet the majority (not all,
> some are OK) of the pro-industrial caused Global Warming side is really
> beginning to paint themselves as hateful scumbags who do not give a damn
> what happens to the working class people,


Kyle, *please* refrain from name-calling and ad hominem remarks. Working class people? Is that all you're concerned about, the financial state of working class people (the almighty $$$) when humanity is generating an upcoming Ice Age that could wipe millions of beautiful and priceless species and perhaps even humanity off the face of this beautiful planet??????? ... Unbelievable!




> as long as "Owl" Gore is A-OK, and his carbon credits too.


I very much admire Al Gore who is trying to educate people on Global Warming in an attempt to help save this planet.




> Inevitably, it seems, any attempt to discuss
> what is going on scientifically becomes a gaggle of ultra-liberals
> swooping down to brand everything as partisan or political.


Please Kyle, lets not get all bent up because present evidence is overwhelming that humanity is the major cause of Global Warming.

Yet one more time I'll be more than happy to discuss the facts with you. CO2 levels have cycled through out the hundreds of thousands of years. Take a look at the chart. Then humanity arrives and CO2 levels skyrocket to ~5 times any known CO2 level. What about the recent vast project where scientists entered every known related effect in NASA's supercomputer that shows humanity is the cause of Global Warming. Did you see the computer generated graph? It matches the graph of real data! What about recent Global Warming television documentary programs that state 99% of the science community related to this field with over 2000 scientists now agree Global Warming is caused by humanity. Please brother, lets get past the almighty buck *on just this one* and take responsibility. Next time you go hiking look at God's creatures eye to eye and tell me your don't care enough to take blame.




> Next, the neo-cons emerge from their lairs and counterattack with remarks that
> make the first group of idiots look right. No science then gets
> discussed.


I have done nothing but show data and correct blatant errors of those who oppose GW caused by humanity.

Sorry, your email is blatant Ad hominem completely lacking any scientific data filled with name-calling and hate.




> The working class are still left driving the evil
> automoblile, and no one says, hey, lets make some real world, nuts and
> bolts engineering to actually DO something about this, and help the
> "little guy" out in the process.


Countless species and lives are at stake here and you attack people because you don't want to hurt the financial well being of the so-called "little guy" ??? We are all trying to help, but first people need educating so they can at least accept the fact that humanity is the cause and what caused such Global Warming!





Regards,
Paul Lowrance






> Also, why are we bringing religion and religious prophecy into this?
> This is supposed to be about science, not theology.
>
> A couple personal points:
>
> To Paul Lowrance: the above is not directed at you. Though I disagree
> with you on the issue of Global Warming, your posts have been quite
> polite and civililzed, and I thank you for that. And, regardless of
> whether or not we agree or disagree on GW, I am right here with you in
> wanting to see the end of the oil-burning age. Maybe a thread should be
> begun to discuss real world solar/etc., how we can make it cheap, ideas,
> experiments on such, etc.?
>
> To Dr. Mitchell Swartz: Your post was brief, but very good, in my
> opinion. I for one am glad you are still on the list.
>
> To all of us: Now lets go do some experiments, and find some answers. We
> here on Vortex are a myriad collection of peoples from across the globe,
> with many different backgrounds and with our own unique skills. Let us
> work together, and try to really find the answers. Or to put it more
> humorously, with due apologies to the great folks who made "Animal House":
>
> OTTER: In this case, I think we have to go all out. I think this
> situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done
> on somebody's part!
> BLUTARSKY: We're just the guys to do it!
> BOONE: Lets do it.
> BLUTARSKY: LETS DO IT!!! GO GO GO GO!!!!
> <Mayhem and madness ensues>
>
> --Kyle, hopefully not on "double secret probation"
>
>
>

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