Re: [Vo]:How are they doing this

[Paul Lowrance]

Actually all aforementioned methods use the same principle. Just depends how 
cheap the unit is. The type provided in wikipedia rotates the PM rather than 
pulling it. Same effect, as both designs require the same amount of energy. The 
less expensive designs have less torque. :-)


Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> We have done some preliminary work on this device and will within an hour
> post a link to some pictures.
>
> Wiki Article Won!
>
> It does indeed use Al and Fe on the On/Off Switch.
>
> The pictures are self captioned with text and I will post actual test
> results as soon as the unit can be reassembled. They used brass rivets and
> we do not have brass screws long enough to put the plate back on. Once its
> back together the measurement protocol is set up.
>
> One thing, it will indeed hold 40+ lbs, but it will not pull the weight to
> it. This may not be a problem.
>
> A :-) for the day. I called Harbor Tool when they opened this AM and wanted
> to be sure the item was in stock. I gave the girl on the phone only the
> first three digits of the part number and she said 'The Magnet Holder?", yes
> I said. She said they had five left as there was a rush this AM. Okay
> Houston, what is going on? Should I ask Harbor for a cut?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:15 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are they doing this
>
>
> Jones Beene wrote:
>
>> Horace Heffner wrote:
>>
>>> However, there will still be losses due to core and magnet heating,
>>> even if no power is drawn from the coils. Further, as soon as the
>>> coils draw power, the  motion of shield is retarded because the
>>> energy from opening the flux hole is less.
>>
>>
>> The so-called flux-gate is an old concept which has never come close
>> to *replicated* OU in over 100 years of trying. There are hints and
>> glimpses, but that is all. In effect, it can be analogized to a
>> rotating transformer.
>>
>> BTW there is a technical definition for fluxgate, related to
>> magnetomerty, which is slightly different than the free-energy usage.
>
>
> I'm not clear on how the effect works, Otto Schmitt built a flux gate
> magnetometer which he used to detect german submarines, and  Ka Boom!