On 25/7/2007 2:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:

> On 21/7/2007 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> 
>> Something else leaves me wondering...
>> 
>>> Harry wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> While the brakes are applied the wheel is not turning about
>>>> its own centre.
>> 
>> Michel wrote: 
>>> Wrt the ground it isn't, but wrt the distant stars it is, at the
>>> rate of one turn per day (it can't be non-rotating wrt both,
>>> agreed?). 
>> 
>> 
>> If you began to ride the wheel nearest the ground after the brake is
>> realeased the net centrifugal force you would feel should depend
>> only on the rotation of the earth, since the wheel is not rotating
>> wrt to the ground.
>> 
>> However, wrt to the distant stars the wheel is rotating so you should
>> feel a reduced centrifugal force.
>> 
>> Apparently theory leads to a contradiction.
>> 
>> Or is my reasoning faulty?
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
> 
> How does this sound?
> 
> The centrifugal force on the person due to the Earth's rotation with the
> brake on is inversely proportional to radius of the Earth.

oops, that should be directly proportional to the radius of the Earth,
(if the earth's rotation is constant).

> However, when the brake is off the centrifugal force is inversely
> proportional to the radius of the Earth PLUS the radius of the wheel.


also directly proportional to the radius of Earth plus radius of wheel.

> Therefore, although the path traced by the person is the same in both
> cases the net centrifugal force is different.
> 
> It would seem the way you are connected to the Earth can affect your
> apparent weight. However, this dependence would disappear if the Earth were
> not rotating.
> 
> Harry
> 

Harry

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