On Jan 11, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:11:59
-0900:
Eventually, it reaches the speed of light, and this happens before
the radius of the nucleus is reached. The latter is Mills' ultimate
barrier to
shrinkage. Furthermore shrinkage is not possible under EM radiation
(and hence
can't be spontaneous).
OK, this I think I understand because the velocity and thus
acceleration remain bounded while the mass and thus centrifugal force
must increase upon taking on more energy, thus the radius must
There is no "extra" energy, only conversion of potential energy
into kinetic
energy (analogous to the conversion of gravitational potential
energy into
kinetic energy as a satellite reenters the Earth's atmosphere).
increase to accommodate the extra energy, and thus more energy can
not be obtained from further radius shrinkage.
No, as potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, the
velocity increases
(while the radius decreases), which according to Einstein should
result in a
mass increase as the speed of light is approached, something which
I *think*
Mills tends to sweep under the rug a bit (or perhaps I haven't
studied his work
closely enough). In my own version of his theory, this is
explicitly taken into
account. I.e. the total change in energy of the system is properly
accounted for
(including change in mass)
I only have a brief time to respond so I'll extract just this portion
for now.
I think you misunderstand my point. As the orbital shrinks, at some
point the velocity becomes very near c. It can't appreciably increase
any more. The radius can't shrink any more. At this point the mass
goes up significantly with incremental kinetic energy, yet the
velocity remains constant, i.e. bounded by c, so the radius must
*increase* due to the increased mass and thus centrifugal force, not
decrease. At this point there is thus no more energy to be had from
orbital shrinkage.
For a first cut approximation to an energy neutral (binding energy
about equal to gained kinetic energy, thus no borrowed energy
required to make state feasible) relativistic orbital, a possible
candidate for a deflated state hydrogen, see:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FusionSpreadDualRel.pdf
which involves an electron gamma over 10,000 and speed of 2.99792e+8
m/s. The electron and deuteron in this instance have about the same
mass and orbit each other. The huge binding energy comes almost
entirely from magnetic binding.
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
