On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

In 2002 Infinite Energy published a paper "What is Missing in Les Case’s Catalytic Fusion" - it did not mention phenanthrene. No surprise there.

Maybe just maybe - especially if Mizuno is even partly replicated, it will be time to revisit the Case experiments but with phenanthrene as a featured ingredient ... the absence of which could be the reason that his experiments were hard to replicate.

That is: if phenanthrene is the active material in Mizuno, it is likely to have been an active material in Case due to the charcoal. Its fluorescence properties (or something else) might be the key to it s activity but it is certain that Case could not have known this back then, and the many types of carbon and charcoal which were tried to no avail would be unreliable souces for this particular chemical. It would be hit-or-miss in the situation where you bought a kind of charcoal which was sometimes active - but you did not know the identity of the active constituent.

It is worth noting that soot and smoke from all varieties of organic matter contains varying amounts of phenanthrene and this is known because of health organizations tracking toxicity. It is highly likely that charcoal from many source can contain it - or not, depending on factors associated with their own manufacture. But unless it is known and specified then that could alter an experimental results drastically.

Jones

The carbon in Case's catalyst came from burning coconut shells IIRC. Maybe Case didn't run his experiments at high enough a temperature? He most likely didn't check for C13 either I would expect. It might be interesting to do a Mizuno style hot hydrogen experiment carbon powder at high temperature in the presence of or combined with various nano sized metals or alloys, especially carbon including alloys, and then analyze the residue.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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