Oops that should have read: Evaporation could conceivably have been 5.5cc instead of the 0.5cc assumed by Melvin (7.7cc - 7.2cc), in which case the 5cc "missing loss" would be due to internal recombination, which would then account for the excess heat.
Michel 2009/1/4 Michel Jullian <[email protected]>: > The argument is not conclusive I am afraid. Evaporation could > conceivably have been 10cc instead of the 5cc assumed by Melvin (7.7cc > - 7.2cc), in which case the 5cc "missing loss" would be due to > internal recombination, which would then account for the excess heat. > > I don't think excess heat can be conclusively demonstrated in an open > cell arrangement. > > Michel > > 2009/1/3 Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>: >> Here is a message from Melvin Miles about recombination. >> >> Subject: Shanahan's misunderstandings of recombination >> >> . . . If Shanahan's statements about my NHE co-deposition measurements are >> typical of his lack of understanding of cold fusion experiments, then I >> would not give credence to anything he says. For example, I did not convert >> the outflowing gases to water as Shanahan states. >> >> For my three NHE co-deposition experiments, I simply measured the initial >> and final volumes of electrolyte to obtain the volume of D2O consumed. For >> the cell in question (Cell A-2), the initial volume was 91 +/- 1 cc, the >> final volume was 83.3 cc, thus 7.7 +/- 1 cc was consumed versus 7.2 cc >> calculated by Faraday's Law. A quick approximate calculation indicates that >> the volume of D2O consumed would have to be smaller by about 5 cc if the >> excess heat in this experiment were due to recombination. This was NOT >> observed. The amount of D2O consumed by electrolysis is within experimental >> error (+/- 1 cc) of Faraday's Law. >> >> A slightly higher D2O consumption is expected experimentally because the D2 >> and O2 gases bubbling out of D2O are always saturated with D2O vapor. This >> is an evaporation effect and not Shanahan's entrainment. Fleischmann's >> calorimetric equations have always included this evaporative effect. >> >> Full details of all three co-deposition studies are in my NHE Report, pp. >> 22-25 (see LENR-CANR.org). There was no correlation of the excess heat to >> recombination in any of these three cells. >> [This refers to http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMnedofinalr.pdf to >> which I should add page numbers. - JR] >> >> I hope this helps to discredit Shanahan's false statements about my >> experiments as well as his statements about cold fusion in general. >> >> Mel >> >> > > ot conclusive I am a >
