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The fun begins:


As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks <[email protected]>
mounted the barricade and roared out:

> Ok, Grok,
> 
> I've decided it's worth my time to try to participate in a
> conversation with you - at least for now. Perhaps it is foolish of me
> to attempt such an endeavor, but in the end it's my choice to manage
> my "free" time as I so choose.
> 
> Just for you I've created a special OT Thread, your own special
> "sandbox" thread where choices that, well... who knows, may change the
> direction of the world can be made: you can either show the Vortex
> collective that you actually have some interesting contributions to
> make here - or you can continue to make it clear to everyone, as it
> appears to have already been made for many why they have placed your
> posts in their kill file.
> 
> I have two observations to make here that will be followed up by a
> question for you:
> 
> FIRST OBSERVATION AND FOLLOW-UP QUESTION:
> 
> In a prior post you stated:
> 
> > Hey, let's get it clear here that I consider many of the
> > people on this eList to be almost terminally-deluded,
> > politically-wise. But they will soon enuff find this
> > out. The hard way, apparently.
> 
> So, you have proclaimed that many on this list are
> "terminally-deluded, politically-wise." Exactly for whose benefit is
> this revelation for? For us? Surely you're intelligent enough to have
> discerned at this point that you are not stating them for our benefit,
> since "deluded" individuals wouldn't be capable of comprehending your
> reasoning. Therefore, if it wasn't for our benefit, it must have been
> done for your benefit, which is why I previously stated:
> 
> "Continuing to post judgmental opinions pertaining to the weaknesses
> and fallacies of others and their perceptions as an attempt to show
> how superior his personal intellect must be, is turning out to be
> nothing ore than an exercise in mental masturbation."
> 
> Seems to me it's really not for our benefit you are making such posts.
> Your posting behavior strikes me as someone acting out primarily for
> his own benefit, for his own self-pleasure: i.e.: masturbation.
> Personally, I've got nothing against masturbation. But masturbation is
> best performed behind closed doors - that is, unless the individual
> "acting out" likes to hide his true identity behind the safety of a
> made-up persona (like "grok") so that he can act out in public to see
> what kinds of reactions he can produce from his captive audience.

Seems to me you are being quite selective with the facts -- and
with the history of this entire interchange. You are in fact
cherry-picking facts, fella. And it is to _those_ sorts of
typical responses which I am getting here, that I am in fact
responding. So if I am _*responding*_ to something -- please
keep that "something" fully in mind -- OK..? Same goes with my
response to such as your ad hominem above, for that matter.

And seeing as how some of you are so far to the Right (or at
least intellectually unchallenged, politically-speaking, for an
entire lifetime apparently), I doubt very much you would
understand how I would PREFER that this stuff be on-the-record.
AFAIC I am not the embarrassment here. And the record
demonstrates what it demonstrates, doesn't it? That's real
scientific-like, right..?




 
> BTW, the introductory phrase you often use seem extremely unique to
> me, i.e.: "As the smoke cleared, [insert poster's name here] mounted
> the barricade and roared out:" It might be interesting to perform a
> search on this phrase (or similar phrases) in order to unravel the
> history of their prior use in other discussion groups. It might be
> interesting to unravel how long these prior posts were tolerated in
> these other discussion groups before they eventually got fed up with
> all the accompanying "acting out", and banned them. Perhaps a good
> place to start might be many of the numerous political forums.
> 
> But enuf on my speculations.

You'll find some fella -- but that would only be because the
local gatekeeper would be of your type. I get along just fine
with reasonable, knowledgeable people, if you want to know.
Big 'if', AFAIC.

And when the barricades DO go up -- soon enuff, in spite of the
suburban anglo insularity that seems to predominate here and
which scoffs at the very idea -- you'll quickly change your mind
on just how reasonable sort a person I am... I just don't suffer
fools of many sorts -- like political, hypocritical, red-baiting
ones -- gladly: a failing I freely admit-to. 




 
> My questions to you: Why are you here, Grok? Are you participating
> here strictly to get your own needs met, or are you here to make a
> valued contribution? Which is it?

I'm here to find out about OU, fella.

And let me point out -- again -- that I'm only responfing to some
pretty dumb-ass Reichwing stuff being posted/passed along here. 
Frankly, I think my REAL crime is that I have not paid the
'price of admission' here. Being just another Internet private
club, apparently.




 
> As for making a potentially valuable contribution, for example, you
> made a previous comment that radioactive substances have most
> certainly (in your opinion) been used against opponents originating
> from Russia, resulting from the rise of the oligarchy/mafia. It's
> possible many in the Vortex discussion group would not necessarily
> disagree with this speculation. The case of the late Alexander
> Litvinenko, a Putin Critic who mysteriously died of radiation
> poisoning obviously comes to mind:

Not my opinion, fella. Fact. I stated a fact. I suppose I could
dredge up the proof. But it would be years-old. And for that
matter: the link below was the next thing I would've pointed out,
if this conversation had continued on normally.

However, it wasn't the incident I was referring to. 



 
> http://sweetness-light.com/archive/britain-says-putin-critic-died-of-radiation-poisoning
> 
> SECOND OBSERVATION, AND FOLLOW-UP QUESTION:
> 
> As for me, you made the observation that:
> 
> > - From my POV, fella, when most people like you wax
> > eloquent on politix -- maybe Science too, eh? --
> > you're just plain embarrassing. You think you've made
> > your slam-dunk point, etc. -- but in fact you haven't
> > even gotten close to Reality. So by all means, put me
> > in your killfile. Life is too short to have to suffer
> > such endless repeated inanity as yours. Not to
> > mention the hypocrisy.
> 
> Could you be a bit more specific? Labeling me as someone who
> "...wax[es] eloquent on politix - maybe Science too." and then there's
> the claims of "...repeated insanity" and "...hypocrisy"... It's a bit
> skimpy on the specific details. What parts don't you like?
> 
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks

We would have to go over all the emails line by line, wouldn't we?
Let's just continue on from here. This stuff all goes around and
around anyway, generally.


- -- grok.




 

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