Don't know Steven, I watched the other video link you supplied and surely one is inclined to take the word of those that say they saw it rise from the volcano... This is what's frustrating... SO many questions that need to be asked. If it was a common occurrence then whoever saw a ring rising from the volcano probably did not watch it ascent all the way up to cloudbase... More interesting things to look at. And its way too dark; more like smoke from a petroleum fire.
Also, one can't tell how long the video clip was since the news probably just plays it in a loop. HOWEVER, the ring was obviously right at 'lifting condensation level' (cloudbase) since part of it was obscured inside the cloud, and if the ring maintained the near perfect circular shape with well defined edges for 10 minutes, I'd have to see it myself to feel comfortable with the smoke ring explanation, and so I could make some reasonable judgement as to why the turbulence wouldn't have at least partially distorted it... BTW, if I was in my ufo I'd probably hang around above that volcano too so people would think that my 'ride' was a smoke ring, while I was watching the human behavior down below! ;-) -Mark -----Original Message----- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:20 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Smoke Ring? From: Mark Iverson > Steven: > I did watch the video clip and would disagree with your above > statement for the following reason... > > As a graduate student in the late 80's, I worked at the Atmospheric > Sciences Center of the Desert Research Institute: > > http://www.dri.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115&It > emid=127 (now called the Division of Atmospheric Sciences) which is > the research branch of the University of Nevada system. I worked > under Dr. James Telford who was an expert in cloud microphysics (over > 100 peer-reviewed publications). Clouds are NOT uniform stable > structures; in fact, they are quite turbulent, with regions (turrets) > of rising air columns (due to the fact that moist air is LESS dense > than dry air) surrounded by descending (drier) air columns. > If the diameter of the ring was much smaller than the dimension of > the immediate cloud structure, I'd say you might be right and the ring > was simply the boundary of one of the inherent structures of the > cloud; but from what I saw in the video, the dimensions of the ring > were quite substantial compared to the cloud, and therefore I think it > unlikely to be so SHARPLY defined and consistent over the time of the > video... i.e., the turbulence would have blurred the boundaries, if > not disrupted them completely. > > -Mark Your description is highly detailed as to why my conjecture was probably incorrect. I must confess that I'm not a meteorologist. Ok, so, what do you think the UFO "ring" was? BTW, here is another interview where they tracked down the individual who recorded the phenomenon. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/ireports/2009/06/18/dcl.irpt.knowles.ufo.cnn?iref=videosearch What is revealing was the video recorders' comment that the "smoke ring" was observed to have originated above the volcano ride. "Smoke rings" originating from the volcano ride are a very common observance at the amusement park. The "rings" tend to dissipate more quickly, except when there is no wind. When there is no wind they tend to hang around a tad longer allowing them to be videotaped and subsequently transformed into religious signs. Of course "Vince" Dinglelint, reporter at large, and from some undetermined future reference point, gave his explanation: "Regarding the recent "smoke ring" phenomenon... Someone forgot to kick in their inertial dampers a few microseconds prior to folding space." But as always, "Vince" never leaves a return address. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.81/2189 - Release Date: 06/20/09 06:15:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.81/2189 - Release Date: 06/20/09 06:15:00
