----- Original Message -----
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dateline: 2013

> In reply to  Chris Zell's message of Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:38:21 -
> 0700 (PDT):
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >Your comments suggest that we have our backs against the wall.  I 
> feel impelled to agree and I am actually glad to see such comments.
> > 
> >Economics is called the dismal science for good reason. Science 
> and academia do not exist in isolation. As more and more facts are 
> revealed, it is apparent that we are in much bigger trouble than 
> our leaders have thought.  If the "recession" doesn't end in a few 
> months,  it will become a global depression by definition. 
> > 
> >There have been times when the US was faced with defeat and 
> encountered a miracle. The US had only enough rubber to fight WW2 
> for a few months - and suddenly discovered synthetic rubber.
> > 
> >I'm sorry to say that we need a similar tech miracle but I don't 
> see an alternative.
> 
> I might just have that tech miracle, but can't find anyone willing 
> to take a
> gamble on a "rank outsider". Maybe the world actually needs to be 
> in the grip of
> a full fledged depression before government gets desperate enough 
> to try a long
> shot. As an example of our own governments actions - they are 
> willing to put the
> country in debt to the tune of AUD 300 billion pursuing 
> conventional cures for
> the recession (including a AUD 45 billion cash handout), but are 
> unwilling to
> even give a hearing to someone that only needs a 100 grand for an 
> experimentthat could end up tripling the nations GNP.
> 
> If I sound frustrated, it's because I am. :(
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robin van Spaandonk
> 
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

we need new physical AND social technology.

Harry

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