Terry 

I agree with your point about "breakthroughs", but let me correct the
disinformation.

There is a so-called "rule of seventy" that provides an easy way to measure
the doubling period for a compounded rate. 

If there was a 7% rate of return, then the principal would double every ten
years. However, that is not applicable to the situation with renewables
where even if the present total contribution were to double in ten years,
the net effect would amount to only about 27% of the total. However, due to
the large jump in solar output capacity coming online this year, the rate
itself will go up substantially. However, average per capita consumption
will start to go up again, sometime in the futre

If the economy improves in 2010, we will probably need all of the
technological breakthroughs we have available to keep oil in check. 

BTW - the biggest name in hydrogen from bacteria - Melis energy - may have
gone under. I can't find their web page at least. 

Maybe one of their super-bugs got to it ;-)



> Statistically when you forecast out the 7.7% year-to-year gains in
renewables, it only takes 10 years to totally eliminate fossil fuels, but of
course that will not happen.

And all that with no major breakthroughs.  All it takes is one like
EEStor or Ben Bova's "The Green Trap" cyanobacteria genetically
engineered to crack more water than they need for hydrogen.

Terry


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