On Oct 29, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:

2009/10/29 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomax design.com>:
What I meant by my comment was that
measuring elevated temperature of a cathode is an *indicator* of excess
heat. But the possibility would remain that some condition in the
electrolyte close to the cathode raises the resistance there, so the Joule heat would be dissipated there, thus making the cathode appear hotter. But I think it unlikely. Shanahan might disagree. But, remember, my goal is not to
prove that cold fusion is real, but to demonstrate it and detect its
signatures. A hot cathode is one.

No it isn't. A hot cathode means the global reaction at the cathode is
exothermic, nothing else. Palladium hydride formation is exothermic
(it releases around 11 kJ/mol heat for a loading factor of 0.8), so a
hot cathode is to be expected, correct me someone if I am wrong.

Michel

I was under the impression the palladium was mostly plated out before SPAWAR jacked up the voltage and current to get the live results. In any case much of the i*W power is dissipated as heat at the cathode and anode surfaces, in the two molecule interface layer, at least i*0.6 V worth on both the cathode and anode where these potential drops occur. It is also notable that under some conditions photons are produced in these layers, both at the anode, and to a lesser degree at the anode, and in both phases in AC electrolysis. These glows have been observed in some electrolytic cells even at the low voltages typical for electrolysis, e.g. 3 V. The interface layer reactions at the cathode are initiated by electron tunneling across the interface layer to cations. It should be no surprise that light can be produce there, in that even at a 0.6 V interface drop, the interface layer is only about 24 angstroms thick, so the field strength is 2.4x10^8 V/m. It is further notable that in some electrochemical cells the anode produces more heat than the cathode and vice versa. Not much effort has been spent analyzing here the heat is evolved in many CF experiments because it is assumed to be the cathode. I think in various kinds of high voltage electrolysis experiments the anode vicinity can be the excess heat producer, but that is outside the scope of the SPAWAR protocols.

A side note - an excess heat signal at the cathode would be larger if it were known to be from the cathode. In other words if heat evolved from both the anode Ea and cathode Ec are measured, then the excess Ee shows up as a larger COP ratio Ee/Ec than that for the whole cell Ee/(Ec + Ea).

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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