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> What I do claim is that the Steorn situation bears very strong marks > of being a con, a fairly sophisticated one, where they are > deliberately setting up demonstrations with obvious flaws, which they > can then remedy, setting up the rebound effect. ... You may recall that I also recently voiced similar speculation. I also speculated that STEORN is deliberately attempting to lead all the skeptics and debunkers down to the slaughter house where at the right moment they will all get wacked on the head. Very calculated... Very dramatic. However, in my scenario, I seem to have come to a different conclusion. It seems more plausible for me to speculate that Steorn actually believes that their ORBO device is for real. IOW, I don't yet buy the premise that it's a con job. OF course, under my scenario it's quite possible that the Steorn engineers have deluded themselves. Please understand, I remain highly skeptical of Steorn's claims. Like everyone here, I demand definitive evidence and am disappointed that Steorn has not yet delivered on that point. Nevertheless I'm having a difficult time perceiving how this "con" game you have described could possibly benefit Steorn. If this is all nothing more than a deliberate (albeit sophisticated) con game then it's all a house of cards and they will eventually get caught. There's no way around the fact that they would eventually get caught. The village will rise up in arms with pitchforks they and torches in hand and run them all out of town, that is after they are tarred and feathered and sent to the slammer. Granted, I could be wrong but I really, REALLY have a difficult time believing they could be that stupid as to believe they could pull off such a con job on the public, not with the amount of constant scrutiny they are receiving. When do they get to eat their cake? More to the point, how can they get to the cake without getting the heads cut off? > And remember, it doesn't have to convince everyone. Just a few. They could keep this up for a long time! I disagree. I think Steorn would have to convince a LOT of people in order to pull it off, but in the end it would still fail - they will still be tarred and feathered. It's my understanding that most con jobs are done with as little publicity as possible since con artists typically go after the ignorant and uneducated, and the best way to accomplish that is to operate as discretely as possible - preferably from Nigeria! ;-) I realize some might point to Madoff as an example of a high profile successful con job. But again I disagree. I realize many people got bilked out of billions of dollars, but eventually, Madoff didn't succeed, and where is he now. > Here is what I'd say: anyone considering investing in Steorn should get together with > others considering the same. If the possible investors were to cooperate with each other, > they could be protected. Steorn may try to defend against this, but the very defense would > be visible Sounds sensible. I personally would demand that before I would be willing to open up my check book that I be personally shown the device running. The contraption had better be powering a light bulb with NO batteries in sight! I would also demand that I be allowed to bring in anyone of my choosing whom I knew to be competent in engineering principals, preferably electrical engineering who could advise me. > It will be fun to watch, I'm enjoying this tremendously. Stay tuned for the next Episode > of Steorn Watch. Will all the devices run down? Will one of them mysteriously keep running? > Will the demonstration be interrupted by a mysterious fire that burns the building down, > destroying all the very valuable demonstration models, constructed at tremendous expense > according to detailed plans that were also destroyed? Or will Steorn remove all the veils, > pulling those translucent covers away like a magician turning the hat over? Yes, it is fun to watch, especially when one has no financial involvement! I'm still waiting for them to screw in the light bulb and get rid of the battery. That might pique my interest. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks