From: David Jonsson
"Yes but still not hot enough to make traditional hot fusion.. Or what is the point here?" David, connect these dots. The Farnsworth Fusor is also not hot enough for traditional hot fusion to occur, yet there is absolute proof that fusion does occur in the device at a level of a few thousand neutrons per second. This is a very robust level compared to typical LENR expectations. This fact only means that in a "warm" plasma, the Boltzmann tail of the Maxwellian temperature distribution is very long, permitting fusion under condition which are orders of magnitude lower than would otherwise seem necessary from consideration of the published threshold values. This presents a kind of a 'middle ground' between LENR and hot fusion - so-called warm fusion. Visually, and anecdotally, the plasma ball which can be produced in a microwave is larger, brighter and more intense in appearance than in a Fusor. While it is true that none of the above make a scientific case that fusion is even remotely possible under these conditions, the expense of the experiment is very low since a vacuum and HV power sully are avoided, and the reward for success is extremely high, if only as a 'gimmick' (publicity stunt). Plus, the pathway to a commercial device is apparent from the start. Furthermore, there is theoretical case which is fairly convincing that the presence of carbon soot in the microwave plasma (which is in a natural nano-geometry, and can be identical to graphene when applied to a surface) and graphene could be an active catalyst for hydrino formation (see: Gir paper which is cited). Proof of warm fusion and neutrons can be found in the bremsstrahlung from the boron-10 reaction, when borosilicate is used, so a dedicated neutron detector is not needed (but is desirable). Hydrino formation gives a possibility that a second route towards fusion is possible, due to a number of physical factors which have been outlined here over the years. Other f/H catalysts could be easily added, should any radiation be seen - such as to flush the oven with argon. In addition a detector for EUV can be employed. All things considered, this is the kind of low budget experiment which may not be ultimately successful, but it is far from pointless. Jones
