At 10:34 AM 2/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Rich Murray <<mailto:rmfor...@gmail.com>rmfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
During a long meditation today, I wondered about the floor under
Rossi's demo -- is there a space under it that could allow wires or
thin metal tapes to carry 15 KW electric power from public electric
power on a different meter than that for the building, with
provision for delivery of the power up the table legs to the device . . .
It would have to be 130 kW, not 15 kW. A 130 kW power feed is a
large, thick copper wire. You could only make a "tape" capable of
doing that with room temperature superconductors. If Rossi has found
a way to do that, that would be nearly as remarkable as discovering
a stable, scalable cold fusion reaction. He would deserve the Nobel
prize. Why would he hide this accomplishment or pretend it is something else?
Let's dispose of this immediately. An operating hypothesis that Rossi
is a fraud cannot be dismissed by refuation of any particular fraud
mechanism. This is why many -- including myself -- aren't ready to
jump for anything that has not been independently confirmed, and not
merely by observation of a controlled demo.
Rothwell has assumed a particular voltage, in order to determine the
feed size. High voltage could be used. Further, there could be a
combination of techniques.
I'm not understanding how one would need 130 KW to get, what was it,
a 10 KW demo?
But all this is beside the point. A determined and skilled con artist
could arrange an appearance like what we have seen so far, it's
simply not beyond possibility.
As you see in the photos, what you are describing is impossible. The
machine is sitting on a separate block of wood, which is place on
the table at an angle. The machine is raised above the wood with a
clear gap underneath. There is no place to hide wires. The two metal
supports holding the device up appear to be ordinary metal, not some
exotic superconducting material, so they are far too small to carry
15 kW, never mind 130 kW. Also, as Levi noted in the interview
yesterday, he poked around inside the device and saw that it was
mainly Pb shielding. He would have noticed hidden wires.
I think you can safely put aside this hypothesis.
No. Not safe against a sophisticated con.
This is *not* a charge that Rossi is being deceptive. I am merely
pointing out that the possibility exists, and, I must note, con
artists sometimes have accomplices. So an involved scientist might
have been duped, or might have been paid.
This points out that an "independent replication" by someone
connected with Rossi, by itself, can leave behind some suspicion, or
maybe even one replication by someone apparently not connected. What
about the Rowan University confirmation of BlackLight Power demonstrations?
Note, again, I'm not claiming that Rowan was corrupt! Or even that
they were fooled in some way.
Just that, with something with as much implication as the Rossi
reactor would have if real, there are very high stakes and therefore
very high caution is required.
If Rossi produces reactors for sale, or for complete, independent
replication (where they can be dismantled), and they work for
significant power, hey, I and others will fall down in admiration. If.
