Mark - Yes, Holmlid and Miley are associates and what your friend has told you - is precisely what I have been referring to in past posting as "IRH" or inverted Rydberg hydrogen. Some call it 'dense clusters'.
This mechanism for its formation is an alternative to the hydrino mechanism, or else it is a further step in a progression. It could be something like: Spillover -> hydrino (f/H) -> IRH I use the term f/H or "fractional hydrogen" for the superset of "below ground state" hydrogen, and suggest that others do the same, since 1) Mills has trademarked the name 'hydrino', and occasionally his lawyers try to enforce it, even though he is guilty of seldom using the T symbol. 2) His theory is incorrect in many details 3) Mills may really deserve as little credit as possible, at least from the LENR contingent - due to his arrogance, negative attitude and refusal to acknowledge the obvious fact that LENR is the most energetic way to utilize f/H and that his work is derivative of P&F. 4) However, he does deserve some credit, at a level to be determined by whether or not he can actually utilize the species without the process going nuclear. I think not. Jones From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Superdense deuterium... FWIW, a friend who is a Ph.D. physicist had this to say about possible mechanisms... see below. -Mark Look into Prof. Leif Holmlid from the University of Gothenburg... He claims that he produced 'superdense' deuterium and when he shoots a green laser pulse on it (which causes 'Coulomb explosion', meaning the intense laser light strips all the electrons of the superdense deuterium) he gets fusion. When he measures the fast deuterium ions coming from the Coulomb explosion, (he uses a time-of-flight measurement to determine the speed and from that) he can deduce the internuclear distance from that. I think it is about 1000 times more dense than regular deuterium. This also sounds a little like 'hydrinos' but Prof. Winterberg tries to explain this through a Bose-Einstein condensation. The nucleus of the deuterium is already a Bose particle (spin 0 or 1 here) and the electrons (Fermi particles) have 1/2 spin but if they could couple, similar to a superconductor, then a whole bunch of deuterium could form a Bose-Einstein condensate and it follows a different statistic. Winterberg suggests that the electrons form a vortex and the deuterium nuclei are circling this vortex and this allows a very small orbit, therefore a superdense state.
