From: Dennis
The answer, of course, is for him to have a patent application that fully discloses his invention so that others "skilled in the art" can duplicate his results. If he just submitted an application that would avoid "undo experimentation" then there would be no problem with getting a patent and for others to duplicate the results and even build on them. Dennis EXACTAMUNDO! He cannot have it both ways. Even if he has said elsewhere and a few days ago - that such-and-such a question is off-limits, and he continues to answer many similar questions, then the present implication is that he has relented and wants others to replicate. After all, and for an eternity - we here on vortex have been preaching that REPLICATION IS ESSENTIAL. This is why I find Rothwell's position so hard to swallow. He is doing a complete U-Turn because he is completely convinced of evidence that is not yet fact - and never will be fact till someone can replicate. Rossi clearly should STFU until he is ready to answer everything truthfully, because in so doing he will always be tempted to misdirect and prone to deception - and he will set the entire field back. Many honest researchers, Dennis included - can and will spend a significant portion of their "underfunding" on Rossi's red-herrings, when in fact they might actually be able to discover what is really happening if he were honest. I am convinced the "Rossi effect" is real, but that he is completely wrong on the nickel transmutation. He simply got lucky with something he did and he will be better off when this is demonstrated. The *science* is all that matters here and Rossi is making fools out of vorticians who should know better by defending this kind of double-talk and deliberate misdirection. For instance, when he says - in the patent - that copper is necessary, but then tells another questioner - point-blank - that there is no copper, then one might be led to believe the verbal deception - even knowing that if it is specifically in the patent then that is what one 'skilled in the art' must do - and that is all the warning they get. Waste, waste, waste. Enough pandering of Rossi. When the guys deceives and lies, we should make it clear that he is doing actual harm over and above the immorality of it all. The best thing that can happen for the field - is for him to shut down the blog completely - and get to building reactors, so as not to use the blog as an excuse when he cannot deliver in time. Jones From: noone <mailto:thesteornpa...@yahoo.com> noone Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi addresses Ni enrichment issue I am not saying he should give away all the information. For his sake, he should not. But it might be better for the world if the information did leak out. I would not at all be upset if his lawyers told him to stop talking because he was risking his IP. That is their job. However, for a member of the cold fusion community to say something to him that would make him stop sharing info would make me furious. Because it could end up "hurting" the world. We need this technology, ASAP. It needs to be replicated, ASAP. I totally understand his need not to give away the technology. But from another point of view the world needs it badly (billions of people vs. Rossi) and I think people should think about that before warning him. _____ From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 8:09:06 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi addresses Ni enrichment issue noone noone <thesteornpa...@yahoo.com> wrote: Who do you think alerted him? He does not need to be alerted. He is an experienced businessman. No one makes a dime in business if he gives away his technical knowledge and trade secrets for free. I hope no one went up to him and told him to stop sharing information. It would make sense if his patent lawyers did so, but if a member of the cold fusion community did so I would be furious. First, Rossi does not need anyone to warn him. He knows that perfectly well. Second, why would you be furious? That makes no sense. Why shouldn't I or someone else advise Rossi that he is endangering his own intellectual property. If you had intellectual property worth billions of dollars, I suppose you would appreciate it if people warned you that you might lose it by saying too much. You would be thankful. If you left your car door open with your wallet on the front seat, I assume you would appreciate it if I warned you. Rossi should work day and night for 20 years, and risked all of his personal fortune. You seem to be saying that he should now give away the fruits of his labor for nothing, and if he starts to give it away inadvertently, we should be "furious" if someone warns him. - Jed