Jones, Well said, I agree totally with the door remaining open for subsequent nuclear effects once the energy is derived from "asymmetric chemistry". Regards Fran
_____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Applet for anharmonic vibration http://people.uncw.edu/moyerc/QMTools/live_documents/prob_11.16.htm This is only half the story (or less) for anomalous energy from hydrogen. Some time ago, a paper turned up on a particular alloy for spillover catalysis (Romanowski) in which a catalyst was identified in a simulation which can supply over 3 eV of the ~4.5 eV necessary to split the hydrogen bond of the molecule. Anharmonic vibration can supply the rest. As we speak, this catalyst is being tested. BTW this ~3 eV is far more than nickel or palladium can supply as a spillover catalyst, either of which are at the level of a fractional eV. OK, despite appearances of instant OU - this can be only a transitory phenomena in itself, since CoE quickly comes into play and catalysis is never gainful alone ... unless there is some kind of an asymmetry, coupled with a way to supply energy input from "outside" the thermal system. Well - QM 'time-shifting' can cover some of the necessary energy depletion of asymmetric chemistry - in the sense of: "borrowed in advance" as it were. The rest must come from something like the zero point field - if the M.O. of anomalous heat gain is to be "asymmetric chemistry" instead of nuclear. IOW There must be an energy flow into the system, and if it is not nuclear, then it must related to only a few possibilities, like dark energy, etc - of which ZPE is the most likely to be the source. ZPE is being used in its broadest sweep to cover the Dirac sea of negative energy. The suspected quanta of energy being brought in is 6.8 eV, which is the ionization potential of positronium and is also a whole fraction of the Hartree energy. IMHO - this explanation best fits the totality of the evidence so far, instead of nuclear transmutation, or the fractional ground state (hydrino) . Jones