Fran, You summed it up quite well... I think the overall concensus of those vorts who have discussed the e-Cat tests agree that the dryness of the steam is a MAJOR source of concern and there are INADEQUATE explanations from the Rossi camp as to that issue. Steve was pushing hard to make sure that that issue was understood by Levi/Rossi and an adequate explanation was returned. I don't think he got what he, and most of us, wanted...
However, what I'd like to see now is some discussion from the collective about Levi's written response, aside from its contentious nature, and to have fellow vorts answer these questions: 1) Does Levi, et.al., understand the importance of the dry steam issue? 2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then do you feel that adequate care was taken in the tests we've seen to establish that the steam was truly dry? 3) Has this recent exchange caused by Krivit's visit changed your opinion at all? Good or bad... -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:36 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative OK, Everyone appears to be angry at Krivit but to be fair to the guy his line of questioning did seem to get back directly to the point where we left it on Vortex - My recollection was that we decided the steam measurement was an unreliable calculation but that the experiment with only a 5 degree increase in water temperature proved there was real thermal gain. Was this difference between mass and volumetric methods of measuring steam energy already resolved? Levi and Rossi are reacting like this was already abundantly clear but I really don't recall this issue as ever have been put to bed. Did I miss something? Fran -----Original Message----- From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:39 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative On 2011-06-17 16:22, Mark Iverson wrote: > That's ridiculous... I highly doubt that Krivit did anything like > that... What is more likely is that Levi misunderstood something that > Krivit said due to the language barrier. Steve mentioned in his report that > he felt Levi had trouble understanding some elements of what he was saying. > Interesting... Regarding that, this an "open letter" (in English) from Giuseppe Levi to Steven Krivit that just got posted on 22passi (I feel it might be subject to slight grammer/wording changes, so I'm not copy/pasting it here). It appears that he is not pleased of Krivit's preliminary travel report too: Short URL: http://goo.gl/2vr0M http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/06/quattro-gatti-e-sette-persone-3.html Cheers, S.A.