So, you will go on the record? The demonstrations have proven excess heat? This 
is irrefutable?

Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Heckert <peter.heck...@arcor.de> wrote:
>
>
>> If he has drained the water from the primary circuit he has wasted energy.
>> He said in august or september, they had done flow calorimetry previously
>> with big success.
>> Why all these confusing modifications and restrictions if this is true?
>>
>
>I can understand why he would not want to recirculate the condensed water
>from the heat exchanger. It would be difficult to keep track of how much
>water is in the loop, and what temperature it is. Some would escape. Some
>might not condense and you might have steam going out of the heat exchanger
>back into the cell. That would not carry off as much heat as liquid water.
>Inputting tap water makes things more predictable.
>
>He probably tried recirculating, or thought about it, and found that it does
>not work well. I expect he found you cannot control it, and it might be
>dangerous, so he changed his plan. This does reduce the recovery rate of the
>calorimeter by a large margin, but I doubt Rossi cares about that. As long
>as there is indisputably large excess heat and it exceeds the limits of
>chemistry during the heat after death, he has proved his point. That is the
>case. Despite the problems in this test, no rational or plausible skeptical
>objections have been raised, and I am sure none will be. The best that the
>skeptics can come up with is a gas canister hidden in the table leg that
>connects magically to the cell without a tube, or Krivit's magic heat
>storage, or various other preposterous notions that fly in the face of
>fundamental physics and common sense.
>
>This was a very poorly done test, but the effect is so large, even a poorly
>done test is irrefutable. It is annoying to me. Intensely annoying, because
>I like to see things done professionally. Rossi's methods confuse and
>confound the observer. They force the audience to dig for the answer through
>the noise and confusion. I prefer elegant tests that make the results
>obvious. But the truth is, I am quibbling, and as I am sure Rossi would say,
>my objections have no impact on the conclusions.
>
>The debate somewhat resembles the 1980s confrontation between the he-man,
>text-based computer operating systems with cryptic commands such as "grep"
>versus the emerging Mac or Windows icons that made things easy to
>understand, and intuitive. Rossi is old school. He doesn't care how much
>work you have to do to understand his experiment. That's your problem. Many
>elderly cold fusion researchers are like this, especially Arata. They expect
>YOU to do YOUR homework. They will not life a finger to make it easier for
>you to understand them. The only criterion that matters to Arata or Rossi is
>how much effort he himself has to do, and how convenient it is for him to do
>a test in a certain way.
>
>That is not to say that Arata or Rossi are lazy. On the contrary, they are
>fantastically productive, accomplishing as much as a dozen other people
>might. Arata has over 100 patents (as I recall). They do not want to waste 5
>minutes making it easier for other people to grasp their work.
>
>- Jed

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