And you don't know if the water level in the huge reactor reservoir is rising or falling. And you know that there are big problems with the secondary loop calorimetry not remotely matching the primary in the one instance (Mat's walk around video) where we know the primary power. Give up, Rossi has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.
On 11 October 2011 19:16, Robert Leguillon <robert.leguil...@hotmail.com>wrote: > I forgot to mention. In the September test, before the pump was hooked > up, they measure 15.8 kg/hr (4.38g/s) consumption. Once connected to the > E-Cat, it dropped to 13.76 kg/hr (3.8g/s), then at boiling, it dropped to > 11.08 kg/hr (3.07g/s). This is just to demonstrate that the pump does not > have consistent performance in the presence of any resistance. For > calculations, we cannot rely on this flow rate, because the > September/October tests may not entirely correlate. > In the Mats Lewan report, the output of the primary side of the heat > exchanger was measured at onyl .91 g/s and 1.9 g/s (when turned up for > quenching). As the heat exchanger was probably receiving a water/steam mix, > though, even these measurements may be unreliable. > > ------------------------------ > From: robert.leguil...@hotmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:02:37 -0500 > > > The data from the September test is great, in this aspect. They did it > right. > They were filling the E-Cat from a reservoir, and after it was boiling, > they gave us the net weight of water in the input reservoir at 21:07, then > logged every time water was added, and provided us a final weight. > > * > > Water flow inlet > > *Added water during start up, from 18:30: 15640 + 9380 + 9473 + 9959 = > 44452 grams. Remaining in the inlet reservoir when the temperature inside > the E-cat reached 100°C at 21:07: 8431 grams. Consumed in 2:37 hours (2.62 > hours): 36021 grams Flow during start-up: 13.76 kg/hour > Added water from 21:07: 8431 + 10089 + 10460 + 6591 + 9960 = 45531 grams. > Remaining in the inlet reservoir at 23:10: 22823 grams. Consumed in 2:03 > hours (2.05 hours): 22708 grams Flow during boiling: 11.08 kg/hour. > Total running time >100°C: 2:05 (2.08) hours > Total flow >100 degrees (from 21:05): 23.0 kg > > IMPORTANT: In the September test, there is no reference to "increasing > flow" at the end, they just turn the pump off. This begs the question if > the September test had the pump running at full capacity. If so, the rate > seen during Septembers operation of 11.08 kg/hr (3.1 g/sec) would be EVEN > LOWER during the October test. We know for a fact that the October test, the > pump was not running at full capacity, because they specifically stated that > the increased the flow during quenching. > > Obviously, the pump does not put out consistent pressure, as seen in the > September test. Was it slowed down for the October test? Was it harder to > push through the heat exchanger, across the floor, under the doormat, then > up into the drain, than the September test? > > If the placement of the thermocouples on the heat exchanger cause us to > throw out that temperature data, and the E-Cat calorimetry is plagued with > phase-change and unknown water flow, just where do we stand? > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:26:43 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data > From: robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > Peristaltic pump NSF Model # CEP183-362N3 Serial # 060550065 Max output > 12.0 liters/h Max press 1.50 bar > > > So it was a maximum of 12 l/hr during cool-down, and if we take Lewan's > numbers as a ratio -- 6 l/hr when stable. > > 12l/hr gives a maximum transfer rate of 8.8 kW -- close to the peak 7.6 kW > recorded on the secondary. > > > http://www.lmipumps.com/Files/lmi/Global/US-en/products/1713e.pdf > If you know what the frequency is (the large thumping noise in all the > videos about every second or so) then you can tell what the maximum flow > rate is because the pump is only capable of deliverting 2ml per stroke. >
