That is OK Robert, I was just pointing out the analysis I conducted. I think it was pretty reasonable.
I was thinking along that line myself. The question about pressure in the condenser gave me pause at first until I realized that any significant pressure at the ECAT end would purge the water fairly easy. I expect to see a little differential that would keep the water moving toward the sink. I do not think it takes much at the flow rate we are seeing. It would be interesting for someone to calculate the water friction within the plumbing to see just how high that is. I am confident that a check valve is in series with the output of the ECAT. This type of valve always has a pressure drop due to a spring working against a ball on a shoulder. It prevents reverse water or steam flow. In my opinion, that is the main reason for the pressure increase within the ECAT as the flow increases. And this is reflected as an increase in T2 required to achieve extra flow. I have been trying to determine the function relating the pressure and temperature within the ECAT versus power delivered to the heat exchanger. That is elusive so far since we do not have an accurate power measurement except at a couple of points. We need better data to complete a good understanding. I would appreciate it if you could help me obtain the function we both desire. Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leguillon <robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production It appeared in the water dump at the end of the September video, that the E-Cat ressure was above 1 ATM. was merely asking if you were considering that a pressure increase could be riving an increase in boiling temperature. No is a perfectly valid answer, it as just something that I had been entertaining. If the core were releasing enough energy to boil 1 gram/second of water, and ondensation or overflow begins accumulating in the hose, the pressure could lowly increase, raising boiling temperature, and decreasing the amount of roduced vapor (without an increase in core power required). t was the premise that I'd been using to explain the T2 increase. David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > The ECAT is not dry during this time, in fact it is filled with water. A small egion of vapor probably exists above the water. I do not agree that T2 can change without energy being absorbed by the water. ll indications are that the water is in good contact with the probe. Of course the pressure will change with T2. That is expected for a saturated iquid with vapor above. The entrance to the heat exchanger is maintained at ne atmosphere +/- since any extra pressure would expel the water from the pipe. o one mentioned anything except smooth flow visible during the test. I asked ats Lewan about this issue regarding his measurement of water flow. There will be a direct relationship (function) between the pressure and emperature(T2) within the ECAT and output power delivered to the exchanger and ther loss items. We are seeing incorrect indications at the exchanger output resently because of thermocouple placement. The real power at the output is uch more reliable. There is no superheated steam. If you look at the T2 readings as a function of time you do not see any unusual ast variations that can not be explained. It is well behaved and changes very lowly as extra heat is added to the water. The pressure changes are virtually ll due to the temperature changes. Actually, there is one region that I cannot xplain. That is where the relatively low temperature at T2 starts to rise most f the way through the test. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leguillon <robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production You are placing a lot of stock on minor variances of the T2 temperature. ave you considered that no energy increase is necessary to increase the T2 robe temperature? It is highly unlikely that the E-Cat is bone dry, and the team is being superheated. It is much more likely that the fluctuations in utput temperature are caused by changes in the E-Cat pressure. ith the same, unchanged input power, a small increase in back pressure (water illing up the heat exchanger output house, or accumulating at hose bends) would >ause an increase in T2 temperature, and a decrease in the amount of water aporized. ince we have no measure of the amount of water being boiled, this change would e opaque. nd, of course, the thermocouple at the output could see spikes from small hanges in the grams/second of water or water vapor. (this is assuming that its lacement has rendered the amplitude of its reading meaningless)
