I may be incorrect, but I suspect that Rossi has never conducted a long term 
experiment in public because he does not have a controller that functions well. 
 Everything that has been observed during the public demonstrations has been 
manually controlled.  The self sustaining mode is merely a way to eliminate the 
need for a controller.  The driven mode would require feedback operation where 
the duty cycle of the power input waveform was controlled and/or the water 
input flow rate would need to be under electronic valve control.  To use 
feedback effectively, several sensors would need to be accessed.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Heckert <peter.heck...@arcor.de>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NASA officially responds to an FOIA request that Rossi has 
never proved his claim


It should be noted, that Rossi has shown them (NASA) more evidency than 
hey got from Piantelli.
And if they really had success with own experiments in sustained 
eactions, then it is not understandable why they need Piantelli & Rossi.
Do they possibly play a secret service type  
fudge-obscure-confuse-spread rumours"  game to protect their currently 
ngoing actual research? Im happy to support them ;-)
Am 10.11.2011 20:41, schrieb Mary Yugo:
 
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/10/nasa-engineer-explains-why-rossi-demos-failed/

 "According to a slide presentation given by NASA engineer Michael A.
 Nelson, which New Energy Times obtained under a FOIA request, “Energy
 Catalyzer” inventor Andrea Rossi failed to conclusively show that his
 device produced excess heat from a nuclear energy source.    According
 to Nelson, a NASA engineer who investigates low-energy nuclear
 reactions and space applications, Rossi did not run his demonstration
 long enough to prove his extraordinary claim.    At the Sept. 22, 2011
 LENR Workshop at NASA Glenn Research Center, Nelson explained that
 Rossi “would need to run [his experiment] for eight hours or more with
 a small E-Cat and much longer for an Ottoman [Fat-Cat] to rule out a
 chemical reaction.”   According to Nelson, it would take “three or
 more days for a small E-Cat, two or more weeks for an Ottoman
 [Fat-Cat] E-Cat and several months for a 1 MW plant.”

 The slide and more at the link.


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