Yes, but the October 6th test provides some idea of what the Megawatt output 
may have looked like, had the E-Cats indeed started empty.  I was looking for a 
corollary indication that the E-Cats were full at test commencement. 

David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I suspect that the input flow rate was larger for the October 6 test when the 
>pressure was low.  It is fairly straight forward to calculate the amount of 
>water fed into one of the  ECATs during the 3.5 hour period of the 28 test.  
>It should be 6.314 liters/hour * 3.5 hours = 22.1 liters.  The 3.5 hour period 
>is derived from the customer acceptance document.  It says the total test 
>started at 9:00.  So, 12:30 - 9:00 = 3.5 hours.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Leguillon <[email protected]>
>To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 3:52 pm
>Subject: RE: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy
>
>
>The "Ottoman" E-Cats appear to be the same from the September and October 
>tests.  Think about the October 6th test (where we new the Cat started empty), 
>and how long it took for the output to register anything at all.  Now add in 
>the fact that the October 6th thermocouple was much closer that the MegaCat 
>output thermocouple. ...
>Thoughts?
> 
>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy
>From: [email protected]
>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:26:13 -0500
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>We have been attempting to understand the initial water capture discrepancy 
>and several issues come up which need an explanation.  Mr. Cude and I have 
>been of the opinion that the ECATs must be full of water during an initiation 
>period since it seems logical that the check valves at the output of each 
>module must open before water can escape.  According to our previous logic, 
>the thermocouple readings suggest that these valves are open due to the input 
>water flow.
>There is an alternate possibility that might explain what is observed.  We 
>know that the ECATs are closed to the world by a gasketing technique which 
>should be air tight if performing properly.  I hypothesize that warm air which 
>is of high humidity must exit the devices as the water inside heats up and 
>displaces it.  All of the air eventually must be expelled through the output 
>port as vapor becomes dominate.
> This humid warm air would enter the steam piping and the water would 
> immediately begin to condense upon every surface.  This would lead to 
> elevated readings of the thermocouple at the steam pipe and also would result 
> in liquid water pooling within the dissipaters and plumbing.  There would be 
> far too low of a pressure at this time to expel the water to the exterior 
> bins so it would pool.
>Now, when one of the ECATs finally generates enough energy to start to boil, 
>this initial fresh supply of hot vapor would have to vaporize the water 
>standing within the output system.  This would of course make the temperature 
>hover about that required to vaporize water at atmospheric pressure or 100 C.  
>This sequence of events would explain the “shoulder” appearing at the boiling 
>temperature that exists for a fairly long time before the standing water 
>becomes overwhelmed.
>If the process that I have proposed is true, then the water levels within the 
>various ECAT devices would not have to be at full.  The problem with the 
>measurement of liquid water trapped would also become much less of an issue.  
>Furthermore, now the output of the 1 MW system could consist of mainly vapor 
>and the HVAC guy most likely performed his task correctly.
>Dave
>
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