“*Rossi says he sold 12 more of his so-called plants. How does that* *work without certification? And IIRC they are supposedly going to the*
*US where regulation is especially strict.”* *The US military does not necessarily restrict itself when it comes to conformance to any regulatory requirements in its secret R&D activity.* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:09 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > From MY: > > > >>> From Rossi: > >>> > >>> ... E-CATS ARE FOR SALE ONLY FOR WHAT CONCERNS 1 THERMAL MW PLANTS, > >>> BECAUSE THE 10 KW E-CATS ARE NOT YET CERTIFIED ... > > > > I made the mistake of browsing through my filter pile. I found this from > MY: > > > >> I'm confused. Megawatt nuclear fusion plants are certified > >> (or don't need certification)? In what country and which > >> universe? Who will provide liability insurance for [Rossi's eCats]? > > > > Of course Megawatt nuclear fusion plants need some kind of > > certification. It is only natural to also speculate that the > > technology pertaining to Rossi/Defkalion gadgets will probably need > > some kind of certification too, particularly since they all claim a > > "nuclear" process is involved. > > > > We agree on that. Yet Rossi says he sold a megawatt gadget that uses > some sort of mass to energy conversion and he didn't seem to get any > certification -- not any he showed or talked about anyhow. In fact, > he implied that because this device is industrial grade, it doesn't > need it! > > > > MY seems to live in a universe where she seems to think she is the > > first person who has just realized this issue.She seems to have > > conveniently ignored numerous posts from Mr. Rothwell who has already > > discussed the ramifications of this very issue numerous times. Yes, it > > most likely WILL be a prickly issue. > > > > Rossi says he sold 12 more of his so-called plants. How does that > work without certification? And IIRC they are supposedly going to the > US where regulation is especially strict. > > > > Meanwhile, it is interesting to note that lately MY seems to have > > shifted her arguments from the premise that Rossi's eCats are most > > likely a scam operation to speculation that while they might actually > > be for real nobody in their right mind will want to "certify" them. > > Not at all. I am pointing out that there is *yet another* inherent > contradiction in Rossi's writings on his blog. I still think it's > most likely a scam operation. Rossi implies in the text he wrote > which I quoted that he can get away without certification for a > megawatt plant. He implies that he can do that because it's for > industry rather than for the home. But that's nonsense. People who > spout nonsense repeatedly like Rossi does, usually are scammers. Or > do you really believe he had a large nuclear fusion heater warming his > factory for a year and do you really believe he enriches nickel > isotopes on the cheap and do you really believe he has a self destruct > device in every E-cat module? That's what he's said and much more > weirdness. > > > > IOW, the line in the sand has been redrawn. I suspect the line in the > > sand will be redrawn several more times before this is all over. > > > > The line in the sand hasn't mover a millimeter and it's always the > same : INDEPENDENT TESTING by a credible source. That's all. Just > once -- either for Rossi or Defkalion -- it's low risk (black box), > cheap, quick and fairly easy. And they won't do it. And before > someone chides me for repetition, it seems the believers tend to > forget that bottom line. > >
