I have a great deal of confidence in DGT and their products. I think you must have misunderstood my statement if you believe that I hold them with any serious suspicion. Also no one would say that I am hostile toward them....in fact I am extremely happy that they offer an alternative to the ECAT products.
Where do you see that they answered my questions promptly? I would like to review that information. I think of the Vortex members as being of very high caliber and with enormous insight and that is the reason that I pose questions toward them. I understand that DGT is busy and does not have time to respond to many questions so a lot go unanswered. This does not suggest that they are incompetent, just busy. And of course they might choose not to answer many questions which would reveal trade secrets. Does this clarify the reason for my questions directed toward the collective? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 3:49 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Name that tune You see that they have answered promptly. Are you contented with the answer? In my opinion it is not justified and not reasonable to treat these gentlemen with suspicion and/or hostility, why should they pay for Rossi's disastruous PR methods? Peter On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:35 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Good question Peter. I have asked a number of questions on the DGT forum in the past but they do not answer consistently. The Vortex has a number of excellent members with a great deal of knowledge about many subjects. A question such as the ones that I have presented are much more likely to fall upon fertile ground here. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 12:19 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Name that tune "The question illuminates, not the answer" (Eugene Ionesco) Why you are not asking on the DGT forum? Peter On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:15 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: I have always assumed that the heating elements within the Rossi ECAT are using AC. The frequency of the current is assumed to be 60 or 50 hertz, but I do not recall anyone measuring it. One interesting possibility to consider is that the large AC magnetic field associated with this current contained within the core might be strong enough to agitate the nickel due to its magnetic properties at modest temperatures. Also, do we know how electrically conductive the core materials are? I wonder if the core net resistive value is consistent enough to carry current for heating power? What if the extra spike that we observe in the waveform can be triggered by the large magnetic field or current that flows within the core region? A lot of questions and few answers. Maybe some of them will cause a light to shine within one of our collective minds. Dave -----Original Message----- From: francis <froarty...@comcast.net> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:56 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Name that tune Why does everyone assume the heater elements use DC? A transformer would be the easiest way to adjust the voltage or current to larger rms values and would explain the isolation transformer. The blue control box then might simply gate this AC power through the transformer for longer or shorter durations. This wouldn’t be called an RFG but it would have the same effect while simultaneously heating the reactor elements. Fran Jones Beene Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:09:19 -0800 Mine too, and now ... the real reason for this inquiry - why do you need one? Coincidentally, as you mentioned in the preceding message, they claim NOT to use an RFG. Which technically does not mean they do not have a fair amount of RF noise in the reactor, does it? It means only that they have no dedicated RF generator. There are other reasons for having an isolation transformer than to protect your Variac and other instruments and computers from a source of disruptive electrical spikes, so it's not a smoking gun - but is there a good reason not to suspect either a spark gap or glow discharge arrangement inside the reactor somewhere? After all, if we were talking about resistance heating elements (ala AR) being your thermal input and your P-in, then an isolation transformer would not be needed, correct ? -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
