Axil:

 

You’re a bit loose with your wording… an example is your following statement:

 

“Ionic crystals are the agent that causes cold fusion.”

 

Of course this is just your speculation, but you always seem to phrase things 
as if you have irrefutable evidence, and in most cases, this is just not the 
case.  Now, being overly confident in your statements is not a crime, but it is 
a bit misleading.  I would only suggest that you try to be a little more 
accurate with how you phrase things… the scientists and engineers that I admire 
always choose their wording carefully and accurately.

 

Keep up the creative and technical postings…

 

-Mark 

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas

 

Novel Attractive Force Between Ions in Quantum Plasmas

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf 

This is the paper behind the article. 

This paper explains the theoretical basis of a new form of matter called ionic 
crystals. 

Ionic crystals are the agent that causes cold fusion. 

The article says: Quantum plasmas extend the area of application to 
nano-scales, where quantum-mechanical effects gain significance. This is the 
case when, in comparison to normal plasmas, the plasma density is very high and 
the temperature is low.

Axil says: 

This is what we have in the Rossi type reactor. The hydrogen envelope is very 
high density plasma with a very low temperature. The population of degenerate 
electrons in this envelope is high due to the high pressure of the hydrogen 
gas. 

These degenerate electrons force Rydberg atoms together into a condensate and 
keep this condensate together when the crystal ionizes.

These degenerate electrons produce a force field at long range that pushes 
protons together to form cooper pairs. This attractive electron field also 
forces naked positively charges nuclei together that have had their coulomb 
barrier stripped as described in my post titled “the magnetic monopole.”

When these naked nuclei come into contact, the nuclear force takes over to form 
new elements.  

Degenerate electrons are attributable to the Pauli Exclusion Principle. The 
pressure maintained by a body of degenerate matter is called the degeneracy 
pressure, and arises because the Pauli principle prevents the constituent 
particles from occupying identical quantum states. Any attempt to force them 
close enough together that they are not clearly separated by position must 
place them in different energy levels. Therefore, reducing the volume requires 
forcing many of the particles into higher-energy quantum states. This requires 
additional compression force, and is made manifest as a resisting pressure. 

Therefore, since according to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle ΔpΔx ≥ ħ/2 
where Δp is the uncertainty in the particle's momentum and Δx is the 
uncertainty in position, then we must say that their momentum is extremely 
uncertain since the particles are located in a very confined space. Therefore, 
even though the plasma is cold, the electron must be moving very fast on 
average. This leads to the conclusion that if you want to compress an object 
into a very small space, you must use tremendous force to control its 
particles' momentum. 

This is what the micro-cavities in the micro powder do; compress electrons into 
the degenerate state.

The article says: The new negative potential causes an attractive force between 
the ions, which then form lattices. 

Axil says:

This is why Rydberg ions are formed so readily in a pressurized hydrogen 
envelope. 

The article says: They are compressed and the distances between them shortened, 
so that current can flow through them much faster.  

Axil says:

This is why electrical resistances drops as the temperature increases in cold 
fusion material. 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Fran,

Reduced, or completely masked?  Don’t know yet…

It’s still ‘in press’ so I doubt PRL will have an abstract yet… 

 

What’s interesting is this:

“The new negative potential causes an attractive force between the ions [of the 
plasma], which then form lattices. They are compressed and the distances 
between them shortened, so that current can flow through them much faster.”

 

So the (degenerate electron) quantum plasma forms *its own lattice*!?  A 
nano/micro-scale lattice of plasma… now that ought to have some interesting 
properties being that the ions are much free-er (is that a word?) that in 
condensed matter.  If this plasma lattice encompasses the first several layers 
of atoms in the condensed matter (Ni, Pd, etc), could the compression of the 
plasma lattice physically force protons to cross the Coulomb barrier?

 

Could this be the nuclear active areas that LENR researchers have discussed?  A 
quantum plasma lattice juxtaposed or co-physical with a condensed matter 
(metal) lattice…  Obviously, it would take specific conditions to bring this 
about, and on a small volume, and probably short lived with the disruptive 
randomness of quantums of heat energy being shuffled about inside the metal 
lattice.  This quantum lattice could certainly be the ‘collective oscillations’ 
that McKubre and others have hypothesized… same phenomenon, different name. Or 
does the plasma ‘lattice’ imply additional properties not considered by LENR 
researchers?

The other interesting clue which could be relevant to LENR is this:

“Such plasmas …. can be produced artificially in the laboratory by means of 
laser irradiation.”

 

Remember that some LENR work (SPAWAR?) has looked at laser stimulation, and it 
seemed to have a positive effect…

 

I think the problem with the lack of good theoretical basis for LENR comes from 
the fact that we really are discovering an entirely new field of physics, and 
there are numerous interactions that can occur… which just serves to confuse 
things… too many effects to coordinate into a qualitative model that can then 
be quantitatively explored and modeled.  

 

Truly exciting times!  This will probably dwarf the importance of the 
transition in understanding when going from the Bohr model of the atom to 
quantum mechanics nearly 100 years ago.

 

-Mark

 

From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New physical attraction between ions in quantum 
plasmas

 

Mark,

                Is this proof of a reduced coulomb barrier?

Fran

 

From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas

 

Hot off the press!

Not sure is this is relevant to LENR, but think it could be…

When ions get closer: New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas

Quantum plasmas extend the area of application to nano-scales, where 
quantum-mechanical effects gain significance. This is the case when, in 
comparison to normal plasmas, the plasma density is very high and the 
temperature is low. Then the newly discovered potential occurs, which is caused 
by collective interaction processes of degenerate electrons with the quantum 
plasma. Such plasmas can be found, for example, in cores of stars with a 
dwindling nuclear energy supply (white dwarfs 
<http://www.physorg.com/tags%0d%0a/white+dwarfs/> ), or they can be produced 
artificially in the laboratory by means of laser irradiation 
<http://www.physorg.com/tags/laser+irradiation/> . The new negative potential 
causes an attractive force <http://www.physorg.com/tags/attractive+force/>  
between the ions, which then form lattices. They are compressed and the 
distances between them shortened, so that current can flow through them much 
faster.

The findings of the Bochum scientists open up the possibility of 
ion-crystallization on the magnitude scale of an atom. They have thus 
established a new direction of research that is capable of linking various 
disciplines of physics. Applications include micro-chips for quantum computers, 
semiconductors, thin metal foils or even metallic nano-structures.

More information: P. K. Shukla and B. Eliasson (2012): Novel Attractive Force 
Between Ions in Quantum Plasmas, Physical Review Letters 108, in press.

< p class=MsoNormal>Gee, you mean there are still new things to discover?  
Science still has things to learn?  I’m being sarcastic here…

 

This is why when anyone, especially a scientist, states that something isn’t 
possible because it contradicts laws of physics, they are just flat-out wrong.  
ALL one is justified in ever saying in that situation is that it’s very 
unlikely.  if they don’t speak in probabilities, then they are probably wed to 
their theories as much as any person is to their religion…  it’s ok to ‘not 
know’.

 

-Mark

 

 

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