On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:48 AM, William Beaty <bi...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:

> It flies like a water-weenie toy: smoke ring propulsion.  Ring vortices can
> sometimes move without turbulence, since they are themselves a stable form
> of turbulence (vortex shedding.)

Reminds me of my fav toy in the 60's:

http://www.skooldays.com/categories/toys/ty1114.htm


> Speculating on shockwave-suppressed smoke-ring propulsion back in 2000:
>
>  High-speed Vortex Blimp
>  http://amasci.com/amateur/vortgen.html#blimp

Ah!  I wonder if the inventor was inspired by that?

> Question: inside a large sphere of fluid hanging in free-fall, if you launch
> a travelling vortex-ring inside, will it be disrupted when it hits the
> surface of the sphere?  Or will pass through the interface and carry a blob
> of fluid into the surrounding space?  If the latter, then the large sphere
> could be propelled by ejecting small spheres ...but wouldn't it only
> experience a reaction force at the moment the small sphere left the main
> mass, and not when the vortex-launcher was originally fired?

Hmmm.  Wouldn't it just suck air into the sphere?

T

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